Thank you very much and I thought that is how it should work but it
doesn't work that way for me, it seems if I create a rule to let a
specific packet through the firewall then snort see's it if I block it.
Then it never gets logged by snort. So I am totally confused and pulling
out my hair. I have posted my snort configs to the snort list and no one
see's anything wrong with it.

HMMMMMMMMMM
Am I the only one that strange things like this happen to LOL.

> IIRC Snort, tcpdump etc use the BPF interface, which COPIES the
> matching packets into buffers supplied by the application.
>
> PF (presumably) is "behind" the BPF interface in the order it gets
> the packets, so even when blocking all packets in PF, snort/tcpdump
> etc. still get to see a COPY of the packet first.
>
> The important bit is that the applications are only seeing copies
> of the packets, whereas PF has access to the original packet in
> kernel memory - so can modify or even delete the packet before it
> gets processed by the kernel.
>
> e.g. the order is:
>
> 1) Physical driver copies packet from the wire into kernel memory
> 2) BPF copies the packet into the application memory
> 3) PF plays with the packet or even deletes it totally.
> 4) the kernel then (if not deleted) routes etc. the packet.
>
> This my blurry view of how things happen.
>
> Dom
>
>
>
> Dom
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 6:44 PM
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> Subject: PF and Snort Working together
>
> I have a question about running snort on openbsd 3.3 with pf and nat, and
> I
> have not got an answer back from the snort folks so I was hoping someone
> here might be able to give me guidance, here is the email below I sent to
> the snort list. So if anyone out there is running snort on their firewall
> I
> would appreciate the help I know this is not ideal and it really should be
> on a seperate box but this is on a home dsl link just so I can get
> experience with snort.
>
> I have just come across some articles stating that if you are running
> snort
> on your firewall as I am and monitoring the external interface. It all is
> setup correctly but just because of the way PF acts if you drop it at the
> external firewall interface snort never see's the packet can someone
> confirm
> this. I have seen a number of articles and email stating that snort see's
> all traffic before it is ever filtered by PF and now have come across
> others
> that say the exact opposite.
>
> Can someone clear this up?
>
>
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