Dave, Seeing that IE isn't standards compliant and not only is not being further developed, but Microsoft is actively discouraging its use, it is probably time to drop support for it.
I would caution *against* using browser analytics as any sort of proxy for use. Since pgAdmin 4 lacks a UI of its own, I rely on an instance of Chromium (or Vivalidi, or Firefox, depending on the machine) to run pgAdmin under. In every case, the browser that I am *running* pgAdmin 4 under is *not* the same browser that I use to browse websites, and so would never show up in your analytics. Just something to keep in mind, rik. On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 8:00 AM Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:41 PM Dave Caughey <caugh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Check the analytics... I think you'll find dropping it is a non-issue. In >> my own web service, I found that IE (all versions) constituted only about >> 1% of my users. >> > > Good point - 1.9% of the visitors to the website were on IE this week. 1.8 > of those were on IE11. We even had one hit from IE5... > > By comparison, 72% of users were on Chrome, 13% on Firefox, with 5.5% each > for Safari and Edge. > > >> >> So I dropped support for IE (since it was preventing me from fully >> adopting ES6), and there was not a single complaint from my users. >> >> Cheers, >> Dave >> >> On Tue., Apr. 7, 2020, 3:36 a.m. Dave Page, <dp...@pgadmin.org> wrote: >> >>> All, >>> >>> Internet Explorer has long been superseded by Microsoft Edge, and even >>> that has recently moved to using Chromium as it's core engine. Version 11 >>> was originally released in 2013, and though Microsoft have committed to >>> supporting it until 2025, as far as I can tell there have been no notable >>> new features in almost it's entire lifetime, and certainly in recent years >>> Microsoft have only been releasing security fixes. >>> >>> As you can imagine, supporting Internet Explorer has a non-trivial cost >>> to it for the pgAdmin project. Not only do we need to test with it as well >>> as Edge, but we also need to write code, CSS and HTML that is fully >>> compatible with what essentially is a 7 year old browser. By comparison, >>> for all other browsers we typically aim to support releases no more than 2 >>> years old. >>> >>> I therefore propose that we officially drop support for Internet >>> Explorer. Practically this means that we would not test with it, and anyone >>> reporting a bug with it would be told to use an alternate browser. >>> >>> Objections/comments please? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> Dave Page >>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com >>> Twitter: @pgsnake >>> >>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com >>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company >>> >> > > -- > Dave Page > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com > Twitter: @pgsnake > > EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com > The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company >
