*Russell,*
*>I still use PG Admin 4 because it supports features in the
new versions of Postgres that *
*> version 3 simply doesn't.*
**
*Just curious. What features does PgAdmin 4 have that PgAdmin
III does not?
*
*I did a survey involving a future feature that is planned,
but I have not yet *
*seen that as of 4 v1.5 .
*
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On Friday, June 23, 2017, 2:47:51 PM EDT, Paragon Corporation
<l...@pcorp.us <mailto:l...@pcorp.us>> wrote:
Russell,
I fail to see a "valid" criticism in the original email. If
there anything constructive at all, I would not have deemed
him/her a fool.
Respectfully,
Leo
*From:*Russell Mercer [mailto:rmer...@getspatial.com
<mailto:rmer...@getspatial.com>]
*Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 2:04 PM
*To:* Paragon Corporation <l...@pcorp.us <mailto:l...@pcorp.us>>
*Cc:* 'Pgadmin Support' <pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org
<mailto:pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org>>
*Subject:* Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in
every way imaginable...
It is my hope that this response does not indicate what I
think it might, which is that the valid criticisms he has
made in his emails are being lost in the immaturity with
which he has presented them.
The points are valid that PG Admin 4 is extremely slow on
Windows machines. It is also true that there is a feature
gap between this new version of the software, and PG Admin
3. It is extremely surprising that this gap exists given the
stated $1,000,000+ expenditure for development of the new
version. Where PG Admin 3 was able to spread across multiple
windows on multiple monitors, PG Admin 4 is constrained to
essentially a browser window.
With the issues it has, I still use PG Admin 4 because it
supports features in the new versions of Postgres that
version 3 simply doesn't. I know the developers have been
active on the mailing list and are attempting to suss out
some of the thornier performance issues on Windows. For these
reasons, I have made my concerns known a couple of times, but
will not continue to harp on them.
I realize that in the end, I get what I pay for. If you
choose to cast people as fools who have criticisms of your
software, that is your choice. I am a user of the database,
and the admin software. I am not a software developer, so my
avenues for action to solve the problem are limited. I am
left with the option to air my concerns, as are many other
people. Hopefully we are not written off simply because this
is all we do, however poorly we may choose to present them.
The story of the court jesters of old comes to mind. They
were written off as fools by the majority of people, however
they used that as cover to deliver what was in many cases,
extremely pointed social commentary. So, while the original
poster may be considered a fool, it does not make him wrong.
Thank you for the time and effort put forth on both
PostgreSQL and PGAdmin. They are great tools!
Russell
On 2017-06-23 07:07, Paragon Corporation wrote:
"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain. And most
fools do."
--- Benjamin Franklin
*From:*grekloe...@tutanota.com
<mailto:grekloe...@tutanota.com>
[mailto:grekloe...@tutanota.com]
*Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 9:16 AM
*To:* Pgadmin Support <pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org
<mailto:pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org>>
*Subject:* Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in
every way imaginable...
This isn't even funny. It's just sad and bizarre.
Everything about this project screams of incompetence,
from the impossibly slow and buggy pgAdmin 4 -- literally
UNUSABLE after over a million dollars spent developing
it! -- to this mailing list itself.
I'm going to have to assume that nobody gives a shit
about anything related to pgAdmin. I'm sure as hell never
going to "upgrade" from pgAdmin III, which itself is
incredibly slow and buggy as well, but lightyears ahead
of v4.
Then again, nobody will read this, just like my previous
posts. You are immune to the truth. I'm going to force
myself to use one of the weird "alternatives" and forget
about pgAdmin forever. Bye.
(If I manage to unsubscribe to this inferno.)
