Hi

On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 at 14:30, Dave Caughey <caugh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm successfully back to v6.2
>

Ah, good :-)


>
> Thanks for your help,
>

You're welcome.


> Dave
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 8:01 AM Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Dave Caughey <caugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can live with freezing at 6.2.
>>>
>>> But... it won't run either, because I'm assuming it relies on Python
>>> 3.9.  We know it runs successfully with 3.8, but I'm guessing the installer
>>> is trying to install 3.9.
>>>
>>
>> You said you were running 6.2 successfully and then upgraded right? I ask
>> because I don't recall exactly when the buildfarm was updated, but if you
>> were running 6.2, then it must have been built with 3.8 so uninstalling 6.4
>> and then installing 6.2 should put you back as you were.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Is there any way I can get a one-off 3.8 build... and then I'll never
>>> bother you again ;-) ?  Or is there some other post install fix?
>>>
>>
>> The build systems for the release builds are fully automated, both in
>> operation and deployment. I'm afraid manually rolling part of it back for a
>> one-off build gives too much risk of messing things up.
>>
>> It's possible one of the dev team has a test environment kicking around
>> that they can run a build on. I do not, I'm afraid.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> And as an aside, shouldn't the installer check for OS compatibility?
>>> E.g., if you can't support Windows 7 anymore, then I guess I would have
>>> expected that the installer should have refused to do the upgrade.  As it
>>> is, I'm screwed because the installer moved me from a version that worked
>>> to a version that was known to not run on the OS, with no (apparent) way to
>>> get back to where I was two days ago.
>>>
>>
>> It definitely should be possible to roll back to an older version, though
>> that may require an uninstall/reinstall. The only thing that might get
>> upset is the config database if the format has changed; we try to keep that
>> backwards compatible, but it's not something we test regularly. Worst case
>> with that should be simply moving the old one out of the way and restarting
>> pgAdmin so it creates a fresh one.
>>
>> And yes, the installer should do that, you're correct. I've blind-pushed
>> a change that should do it - hopefully it won't break the build!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:27 AM Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:08 PM Dave Caughey <caugh...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But recent versions of pgAdmin *have* been running on Windows 7.  Over
>>>>> the years I've religiously updated throughout v4, v5 and v6 (up until 
>>>>> v6.2)
>>>>> and it's been running perfectly fine up until I upgraded from v6.2 -> 6.4
>>>>> yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I've tried reinstalling v6.2, but I'm now getting the same error.
>>>>> So clearly it's just a configuration issue or compatibility issue with 
>>>>> some
>>>>> other component (e.g., python 3.8) because it was able to run yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> But looking back through my email history, I see I did have a problem
>>>>> updating to v5.0, that Dave Page kindly resolved.  I don't know if what 
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> now experiencing is the same issue, but is there a similar work
>>>>> around, given that v6.2 was working perfectly fine yesterday?   I'd be
>>>>> happy to freeze at v6.2, if that's really the last version, but please
>>>>> don't make me go back to v4.30!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes - we stopped officially supporting Windows 7 with 4.30, but later
>>>> rolled back the Python version so it would continue to work regardless. We
>>>> recently had a round of updating the Python versions across the board, and
>>>> I'll be honest, I completely forgot about the Windows 7 compatibility when
>>>> we did that. Unfortunately though we really can't stick to an old version
>>>> any longer; the longer we do so, the harder it becomes to update it later.
>>>>
>>>> So I'm afraid if you're using Windows 7, you'll need to freeze at v6.2.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> ----------------- previous thread ------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 3:30 PM Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 3:13 PM Dave Page <dp...@pgadmin.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 2:46 PM Dave Caughey <caugh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's what happens when I run the command on the terminal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But... pgAdmin v4.30 runs fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I believe the issue is that Python 3.9 has dropped support for
>>>>>>> Windows 7 and earlier, something which I for one didn't realise until I
>>>>>>> started looking into this (see
>>>>>>> https://www.python.org/downloads/windows/).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've kicked off a build using Python 3.8 for testing. That claims to
>>>>>>> support back to Vista. I'll send a link once it's done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the Python 3.8 based test build. Note that I haven't tested it
>>>>>> at all - I just kicked off the normal build process but told it to use 
>>>>>> 3.8
>>>>>> instead of 3.9.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/2021-02-25python38-1/pgadmin4-5.0-x64.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let us know if it works on Windows 7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave told me offlist that it's working for him.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, we need to think about how long we'll support Windows 7. Sooner or
>>>>> later we will have to update Python... :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 1:32 PM Fahar Abbas <
>>>>> fahar.ab...@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dave Caughey!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have dropped the Windows 7 and Windows 2008R2 64 bit support. Can
>>>>>> you please upgrade your system? We have dropped the Windows 7 and Windows
>>>>>> 2008R2 64 bit support as per link below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.pgadmin.org/download/pgadmin-4-windows/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pgAdmin is available for 64 bit Windows™ 7 SP1 (desktop) or 2008R2
>>>>>> (server) and above, up to v4.30.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> v5.0 and later are supported on Windows 8 (desktop) or 2012 (server)
>>>>>> and above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 32 bit Windows support is available for versions up to v4.29.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 6:43 PM Dave Caughey <caugh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still get the same message after a complete uninstall/reinstall.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am on Windows 7 SP1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:04 AM Fahar Abbas <
>>>>>>> fahar.ab...@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Dave Caughey,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am not able to reproduce the issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How I tested:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Installed pgadmin4 6.2
>>>>>>>> 2. Launch pgAdmin4
>>>>>>>> 3. close pgAdmin4
>>>>>>>> 4. Installed pgadmin4 6.4
>>>>>>>> 5. Launch pgadmin4
>>>>>>>> 6. No issue found
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you please uninstall pgadmin4 from the control panel and try to
>>>>>>>> install pgadmin4 6.4 again?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:59 AM Dave Caughey <caugh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After upgrading from 6.2 to 6.4, when I start pgAdmin I get an
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The pgAdmin 4 server could not be contacted"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> message, with the environment details shown below.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have tried re-installing pgadmin4-6.4-x64.exe, and tried
>>>>>>>>> rebooting windows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should I uninstall some component and reinstall?  Or?  And if you
>>>>>>>>> need any logs, please let me know where to grab them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pgAdmin Runtime Environment
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Python Path: "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Programs\pgAdmin
>>>>>>>>> 4\v6\python\python.exe"
>>>>>>>>> Runtime Config File:
>>>>>>>>> "C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\pgadmin\runtime_config.json"
>>>>>>>>> pgAdmin Config File: "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Programs\pgAdmin
>>>>>>>>> 4\v6\web\config.py"
>>>>>>>>> Webapp Path: "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Programs\pgAdmin
>>>>>>>>> 4\v6\web\pgAdmin4.py"
>>>>>>>>> pgAdmin Command: "C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Programs\pgAdmin
>>>>>>>>> 4\v6\python\python.exe -s C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Programs\pgAdmin
>>>>>>>>> 4\v6\web\pgAdmin4.py"
>>>>>>>>> Environment:
>>>>>>>>>   - ALLUSERSPROFILE: C:\ProgramData
>>>>>>>>>   - APPDATA: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming
>>>>>>>>>   - CHROME_CRASHPAD_PIPE_NAME:
>>>>>>>>> \\.\pipe\crashpad_1836_DIKKTZARVGRVNIBP
>>>>>>>>>   - CHROME_RESTART: NW.js|Whoa! NW.js has crashed. Relaunch
>>>>>>>>> now?|LEFT_TO_RIGHT
>>>>>>>>>   - CommonProgramFiles: C:\Program Files\Common Files
>>>>>>>>>   - CommonProgramFiles(x86): C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files
>>>>>>>>>   - CommonProgramW6432: C:\Program Files\Common Files
>>>>>>>>>   - COMPUTERNAME: USER-PC
>>>>>>>>>   - ComSpec: C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe
>>>>>>>>>   - FP_NO_HOST_CHECK: NO
>>>>>>>>>   - HOMEDRIVE: C:
>>>>>>>>>   - HOMEPATH: \Users\User
>>>>>>>>>   - JAVA_HOME: C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.8.0_271
>>>>>>>>>   - LOCALAPPDATA: C:\Users\User\AppData\Local
>>>>>>>>>   - LOGONSERVER: \\USER-PC
>>>>>>>>>   - NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS: 4
>>>>>>>>>   - OS: Windows_NT
>>>>>>>>>   - Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Common
>>>>>>>>> Files\Oracle\Java\javapath;"C:\Program Files
>>>>>>>>> (x86)\Java\jre7\bin";C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program
>>>>>>>>> Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\Program
>>>>>>>>> Files\PuTTY\;C:\Program Files\Git\cmd
>>>>>>>>>   - PATHEXT: .COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC
>>>>>>>>>   - PGADMIN_INT_KEY: d02a954c-b93a-445b-b57b-ff2764541239
>>>>>>>>>   - PGADMIN_INT_PORT: 61303
>>>>>>>>>   - PGADMIN_SERVER_MODE: OFF
>>>>>>>>>   - PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE: AMD64
>>>>>>>>>   - PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER: Intel64 Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9,
>>>>>>>>> GenuineIntel
>>>>>>>>>   - PROCESSOR_LEVEL: 6
>>>>>>>>>   - PROCESSOR_REVISION: 3a09
>>>>>>>>>   - ProgramData: C:\ProgramData
>>>>>>>>>   - ProgramFiles: C:\Program Files
>>>>>>>>>   - ProgramFiles(x86): C:\Program Files (x86)
>>>>>>>>>   - ProgramW6432: C:\Program Files
>>>>>>>>>   - PSModulePath:
>>>>>>>>> C:\Windows\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\Modules\
>>>>>>>>>   - PUBLIC: C:\Users\Public
>>>>>>>>>   - SESSIONNAME: Console
>>>>>>>>>   - SystemDrive: C:
>>>>>>>>>   - SystemRoot: C:\Windows
>>>>>>>>>   - TEMP: C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp
>>>>>>>>>   - TMP: C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp
>>>>>>>>>   - USERDOMAIN: User-PC
>>>>>>>>>   - USERNAME: User
>>>>>>>>>   - USERPROFILE: C:\Users\User
>>>>>>>>>   - windir: C:\Windows
>>>>>>>>>   - windows_tracing_flags: 3
>>>>>>>>>   - windows_tracing_logfile:
>>>>>>>>> C:\BVTBin\Tests\installpackage\csilogfile.log
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Fahar Abbas
>>>>>>>> pgAdmin4 team
>>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB Corporation
>>>>>>>> Mobile: +92-333-5409707
>>>>>>>> Skype ID: *live:fahar.abbas*
>>>>>>>> Website: www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Fahar Abbas
>>>>>> pgAdmin4 team
>>>>>> EnterpriseDB Corporation
>>>>>> Mobile: +92-333-5409707
>>>>>> Skype ID: *live:fahar.abbas*
>>>>>> Website: www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Page
>>>> Blog: https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>
>>>> EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
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>>
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>>
>>

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