>Are computer professionals still using MS Windows?
Yes, we use MS Windows with PgAdmin to connect to PostgreSQL on LINUX systems.
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On Thursday, June 15, 2017, 9:15:59 PM EDT, Richard Greenwood 
<richard.greenw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Like is this a charade? Am I hallucinating? Are computer professionals still 
using MS Windows?
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Patrick Headley <phead...@linxco-inc.com> 
wrote:

  It doesn't sound like anyone is ignoring the problem but some issues are 
harder to fix than others. If pgAdmin4 isn't working for you, use something 
else. No one is saying you have to use pgAdmin4.
 
 While you are accusing many people of having something wrong in their heads I 
have observed that you are the only one that is flipping out over the issue. As 
I stated in a prior message, I was dissatisfied with pgAdmin4 on Windows so I 
got pgAdmin3 for Windows and PostgreSQL 9.6 from another vendor that is 
maintaining pgAdmin3. No need to panic. Still getting my work done. When 
pgAdmin4 works well (and it's getting there and it's definitely not the worst 
performing software that I use on a daily basis), I'll make the switch.
 
 Another way of looking at the situation is that someone has to test the 
software. It cannot be up to David alone. There are many people doing this and 
not flipping out about the issues but simply presenting them to David so they 
can be fixed. It's a process. No software is perfect on every machine and 
platform before being  released. There is no way for David to test every 
possible scenario and he has explained that already. It takes a community of 
cooperation to make it right.
 
 I hope you can find a solution that works for you while David works out the 
bugs in pgAdmin4.
 
  Patrick Headley
 Linx Consulting, Inc.
 phead...@linxco-inc.com
 (303) 916-5522
 www.linxco-inc.com On 06/15/2017 11:20 AM, David G. Johnston wrote:
  
  On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:05 AM, <grekloe...@tutanota.com> wrote:
    
  It doesn't seem possible to get through to you. Whatever you spent those one 
million dollars on, it sure as hell wasn't related to pgAdmin in any way. More 
like very heavy drugs, if you think this is even acceptable for 
pre-pre-pre-alpha software. It's literally *unusable*.  You get it? UNUSABLE. 
Anyone who claims otherwise must have something wrong in their head.
 
 Are you just going to keep on this charade or actually fix the problem?  Do I 
have to switch from PostgreSQL to something else just because the admin tool is 
broken beyond the point of being usable to anyone? This is  insanity.
  
  
   ​There isn't a monopoly on GUI admin software for PostgresSQL.  While it has 
its quirks I find PostgreSQL Maestro to be quite functional for my needs - at 
least the ones I don't solve by writing scripts and executing them via psql.  
The server is going to function the same no matter which external 
administration/client tools you choose to use. 
  I rarely used pgAdmin3, I found it to be "too graphical" if that makes sense, 
and haven't tried pgAdmin4.  My scanning of this mailing list leads me to 
believe what you are saying is reasonably accurate even if your tone is not: 
there are a number of active discussions on this very topic on this mailing 
list right now. 
  David J. 
    
 
 



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