I just tried initdb with the -A pam option and no -W.  As expected, I can't log 
into the instance.  There is  a MD5 hash and postgres still defaults to 
password authentication even though I did not use the -W.  Is this a bug?    
And I can't log into it because I have no idea what password it used.  Even if 
I did, it's not set up how I want it to be.  I want to log in with PAM.  

In our company, behind the scenes pam uses openldap.  It works fine adding a 
user with out a password still works fine.  It's the postgres user that I'm 
concerned with.  The way it is now if we change the postgres password in 
openldap we'd be at a loss connecting since it's using MD5.

One thing I was thinking of is using a different username for the super user 
like -U Tom for the initdb.  Then, just adding the user postgres later via my 
method I know works.  We add the user, just not specifiying a password.  When 
we log in with that user the defaul goes to ldap and we can easily log in.  

Maybe things have changed with version 8.3x and there is something else I 
should do to specifically configure ldap instead of pam.  I did notice ldap in 
the pg_hba as an alternative method and don't remember that as a specific 
method before, just pam.

Thanks,
~DjK



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