Alright but what's odd to me is that it's a standard out of the box ubuntu 
configuration, meaning:

log_destination is 'stderr'
logging_collector is on
log_directory is /var/log/postgresql/
log_filename is postgresql-%Y-%m-%d_%H%M%S.log

When I ran pg_ctlcluster start, I only received "please check the log output", 
but there were no errors logged. There are definitely log items when the server 
was running normally.

When I ran postgres manually, I saw the permissions issue. My question then is 
where was this error sent when running pg_ctlcliuster, or why was it squashed? 
It would have been helpful to have that from the start.

--
Wells Oliver
wellsoli...@gmail.com




On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:23 AM, Giuseppe Broccolo 
<giuseppe.brocc...@2ndquadrant.it> wrote:

> Hi Oliver,
> 
> Il 12/07/2013 04:07, Wells Oliver ha scritto:
>> I ran:
>> 
>> pg_ctlcluster 9.1 main start
>> 
>> Received:
>> 
>> The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output.
>> 
>> But, hey, in /var/log/postgresql, there was absolutely no logging. Nothing. 
>> After some googling, I tried:
>> 
>> usr/lib/postgresql/9.1/bin/postgres -D /data/postgresql/9.1/main -c 
>> config_file=/etc/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf 
>> 
>> From the command line, which spit out to the terminal:
>> 
>> 2013-07-12 02:04:05 GMT [30091]: [1-1] FATAL:  data directory 
>> "/data/postgresql/9.1/main" has group or world access
>> 
>> OK, so where the heck did this error message go when I was running 
>> pg_ctlcluster? It would have saved me a lot of time.
> 
> By default pg_ctlcluster script redirects postmaster's stderr into 
> /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-9.1-main.log.
> This works only if log_destination is stderr and logging_collector is 
> disabled, else the logs are stored where configured by log_destination, 
> log_filename and log_directory in your postgresql.conf file.
> Advice is to look into your postgresql.conf how (and if) logging is 
> configured.
> 
> Regards,
> Giuseppe.
> -- 
> Giuseppe Broccolo - 2ndQuadrant Italy
> PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support
> giuseppe.brocc...@2ndquadrant.it | www.2ndQuadrant.it

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