I'm currently removing the frames from my work's site for similar
reasons, but mainly that when someone clicks a link from a search
engine, they get the content frame, but not the navigation bar. Also, we
have information kiosks accessible to the public, and (for some unknown
reason) the suppliers have disabled frames.

Also, I still come across some platforms where frames are barely
supported.

Peter

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 8:54 AM
To: Oliver Andrich
Cc: Vince Vielhaber; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Subject: [HACKERS] Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Webpages Online


How about ditching the frames entirely? Not only are they
problematical from a UI perspective, they're now passe. See <URL:
http://www.python.org/ > or <URL: http://www.freebsd.org/ > for a more
modern design.

Of course, pages that put everything in a table to do layout load slow
and tend to come out ugly on anything that isn't pretty much a clone
of the designers system, but they beat frames hollow.

        <mike

On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Oliver Andrich wrote:

> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:44:19 +0200
> From: Oliver Andrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Vince Vielhaber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Webpages Online
> 
> Hi,
> 
> ok I am new to PostgreSQL and my mirror of the PostgreSQL pages is
quite new,
> but I have to comment on this webpage design. I am not sure on what
machines
> you work or what resolutions your display provides, but on my machine
the page
> uses only 1/2 of the possible space in the web browser and it is
really ugly
> to read the manuals in 16 line frame. Isn't it possible to design the
frameset
> in a more flexible way? The fixed heights of the individual rows are
really,
> really ugly.
> 
> How about defining the top level frameset as <frameset border=0
frameborder=no
> rows="120,*,10%"> or so. Mixing fixed values, wildcards and percentage
values
> is really bad style, but this is just a hint. And may be we should
think about
> displaying the elephant besides the logo, cause it wastes a lot of
valuable
> place in the middle frame.
> 
> Just my $0.02.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
>     Oliver Andrich
> 
> On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 04:48:29PM -0400, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
> > 
> > The new web pages are now online.  All new look.  All new feel.  All
new
> > logos.  All new.................
> > 
> > Vince.
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