Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> writes: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 12:02:31AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> In the meantime, I was wondering a bit why pg_upgrade looks at the >> postmaster.pid file at all.
> The reason we check for postmaster.pid is so we can give the user a clue > about which postmaster is running. [ scratches head... ] I failed to detect any such clue in the error message it prints. Had you printed the PID from the file, or even better looked to see if that process was actually still alive, this argument would be reasonable. But pg_upgrade does neither of those, whereas if it had started a postmaster the postmaster would have done both of those things. > Also, we don't want to start on a non-clean shutdown, so the missing pid > file tells us it was clean. I agree that super paranoia is not unreasonable in pg_upgrade. But it would be useful to print something similar to what the backend prints, about checking whether PID N is still there and manually removing the lock file if not. Or (ahem) you could let the existing backend-side logic do that for you, rather than reimplementing that logic badly. Meanwhile I still have to figure out how come the postmaster.pid file is still there in the OP's case ... regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-bugs mailing list (pgsql-bugs@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-bugs