On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 6:01 PM Alexander Korotkov <aekorot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 3:00 PM Jelte Fennema-Nio <postg...@jeltef.nl> wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 at 12:24, Alexander Korotkov <aekorot...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 3:29 AM Michael Paquier <mich...@paquier.xyz> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Yeah, that's what I think too.  The unintentional omission of a
> > > > > pre-shutdown delay in the 046 test has exposed some pre-existing
> > > > > fragility in pg_logical_slot_get_changes().  So I'm not in favor
> > > > > of changing 046 till we understand this better.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, better to understand what's going on before changing the test,
> > > > and perhaps change 046 so as it provide stable coverage for this case,
> > > > even if discovered accidentally.
> > > >
> > > > So, is it only pg_logical_slot_get_changes_guts() that's messed up in
> > > > this context, because XLogDecodeNextRecord() is trying to read pages
> > > > as it has a logic too permissive?  How did any of you reproduce the
> > > > failure?  Just by running the test in a loop?  It is one of these
> > > > patterns where a hardcoded sleep should do the trick and help with a
> > > > bisect.
> > >
> > > Personally I just run the test in the loop.  It takes about ~30 times to 
> > > reproduce.  Works both with -O0 and -O2.
> > >
> > > cd src/test/recovery
> > > while PROVE_TESTS="t/046_checkpoint_logical_slot.pl 
> > > t/047_checkpoint_physical_slot.pl" make check; do :; done
> > >
> > > > By the way, At the bottom of test 046_checkpoint_logical_slot.pl, if
> > > > you expect the checkpoint to complete before sending the immediate
> > > > shutdown request, I would suggest to use a wait_for_log() based on
> > > > "checkpoint complete" or an equivalent loop.  What you are doing in
> > > > the test is unstable as written.
> > >
> > > Exactly.  I've proposed the fix with wait_for_log() in [1].  
> > > Nevertheless, both cases (immediate stop before checkpoint completion, 
> > > and immediate stop after checkpoint completion) must work without hang.
> >
> > CFBot has been much more red than usual since this change afaict. Many
> > more windows builds are failing than usual with an error like this:
> >
> > [08:28:52.683] 338/338 postgresql:recovery /
> > recovery/046_checkpoint_logical_slot TIMEOUT 1000.09s exit status 1
> >
> > How about we revert the commit for now to get CI and the buildfarm green 
> > again?
>
> What about removing the 046_checkpoint_logical_slot which currently
> causes all the buzz?  I'm not yet convinced we need to revert
> ca307d5cec90.  Opinions?
>

If we decide to revert/remove anything, it is better to remove
046_checkpoint_logical_slot and keep investigating the issue. As per
the information available at this point, it appears to be a base code
bug accidentally discovered by this test case. OTOH, removing this
test has a risk that there could be a delay in finding the root cause
of the issue.

-- 
With Regards,
Amit Kapila.


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