Thank you for the feedback,

I have used pacemaker for other purposes previously so am a little familiar 
with it. It appears that in this scenario pacemaker is being used to manage a 
floating ip as well as deal with split brain scenarios. What isn’t clear is how 
effective master-> master replication is being accomplished. Postgresql 
streaming replication to the best of my limited knowledge only replicates in 
one direction, from the active to the standby servers. The issue this presents 
to me is that once you failover from the active to the standby (or one of the 
standby’s depending on how many you have) none of the data written on the 
standby is replicated back to the formerly active server.

Let us say that I have only 2 postgresql servers (absolute minimum number) and 
I want to patch server A. Ideally, I would use a load balancer (or other 
failover mechanism like pacemaker) and repoint the floating ip to server B. Now 
traffic would “drain” down off server A, and slowly (or rapidly) move to B. 
During the move some clients would still be writing to A and some clients would 
be writing to B. Once they have all moved to B, server A would then be patched. 
Then the load balancer would be used to repoint the floating ip again back to 
A, and the process would repeat, with traffic moving back to A. Just like in 
the first half of the failover some traffic would exist on both hosts as the 
failover progresses. Once completed all the traffic would be back on A.

In the above scenario, I do not understand how streaming replication would 
handle the part of the scenario when there are clients writing to A and B. It 
would seem that something like `pgpool-ii` or `pgEdge` would be required, but 
with my limited knowledge it is unclear if or which would be appropriate.

Regards
Jason


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From: Олег Самойлов <spl...@ya.ru>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:08 AM
To: Jason Grammenos <jason.gramme...@agilitypr.com>; 
pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org
Subject: Re: Postgresql HA cluster

For Postgresql HA cluster the most popular solution is streaming replication. 
There is an option how implement this. Web programmer approach is using 
haproxy+consul+patrony. The "old schoool" is using Pacemaker, all in one bottle 
and well tested. If you interesting how implement in Pacemaker, you may look at 
my project of testbed that continuously test different HA clusters by random 
failures. I don't see such for  haproxy+consul+patrony.
https://github.com/domclick/tuchanka


11.10.2023, 21:02, "Jason Grammenos" 
<jason.gramme...@agilitypr.com<mailto:jason.gramme...@agilitypr.com>>:

Hello,



I am new to PostgreSQL and having to migrate a Cassandra cluster to PostgreSQL.

Have a reasonable amount of experience with MySQL and use Master -> Master 
MySQL replication quite successfully.



I am trying to understand what configuration/option to pick for PostgreSQL that 
will provide the same or similar level of operational easy as the Cassandra 
cluster. What I mean by that is : Backups, Patching (rebooting nodes to patch)

With Cassandra any single node can be patched and rebooting without incurring 
downtime. This is also true with MySQL master->master replication, which we 
have fronted by a HAproxy reverse proxy (we can fail over between the two MySQL 
node, draining the connections as we do so and then patching and reboot).



I have found the following documentation:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/different-replication-solutions.html



and have heard of “Traktor”, “pgEdge” and some other third-party tools.

My difficulty is that with very little knowledge of PostgreSQL I am having a 
hard time sorting through the various options and determining which are 
potential candidates for the kind of setup I am looking for (something 
approximating MySQL master->master replication).



Any advice or resources would be much appreciated.

Regards

Jason Grammenos



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