On Oct 31, 2025, at 07:54, Bruce Momjian <[email protected]> wrote:
> So it seems we have somewhat of a stand-off, with the Postgres project
> questioning the value of TDE and the PCI writers doubling-down on
> specifying disk-level encryption as insufficient.

PCI definitely exhibits a preference away from disk-level encryption, although 
it doesn't prohibit it: you have to make sure that simply mounting the disk 
doesn't decrypt it.  Their concern is that if user credentials are compromised, 
and an attacker then has to do something else in order to see the plaintext.  
This kind of implies TDE, although they don't use that term.

Now, the road forks here:

1. If a customer wants TDE and isn't interested in hearing about other 
solutions, then TDE is only thing that will meet that goal.

2. The PCI spec doesn't specifically offer up TDE as an alternative to 
disk-level encryption, though.  It exhibits a strong preference for 
column-level encryption of sensitive data, which doesn't require TDE.

In some ways, there's no real point of discussion.  You can comply with PCI 
without TDE (I would argue that, in fact, you are in a better position with 
column-level encryption), but if the organization wants TDE, then the technical 
arguments rarely matter.

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