OK, I downloaded the source and followed the directions from here (http://www.postgresql.org/docs/admin/installation.htm) and when I run the command: /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -i -D /usr/local/pgsql/data >logfile 2>&1 & I get the error: [1] 28156 bash: logfile: Permission denied I try to createdb anyway and I get: /usr/local/pgsql/bin/psql: error in loading shared libraries: libpq.so.2.1: cannot open sh ared object file: No such file or directory createdb: database creation failed [1]+ Exit 1 /usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -i -D /usr/local/pgsql/data>logfile 2>&1 I do not know what to do from this point. I would have thought if this was missing I would have had an error on compile. (Hence my infatuation with RPMs :) ) Adam Lang Systems Engineer Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company