David suggested using a guesstimate default date along with a boolean to
indicate when you're using guesstimates.  I think this is a solid approach,
but if the default expected_by idea doesn't work for you, a boolean would
still make this a lot easier on the Rails side.

It sounds like you're using a setup for Heroku, so I checked the postgreSQL
8.3 manual--a boolean is 1
byte<http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/datatype-boolean.html>.
If this isn't for Heroku, other postgreSQL version probably implement
booleans the same way.  Your database size should go up by # records * 1
byte + indexing overhead.

Though I don't know how many records you're working with, this seems
relatively cheap given that it will make your code more readable ("if
expected_date_estimated?").  It should also simplify any remaining code you
have to write, as you won't have to think about writing elaborate "if" or
"case" statements to determine if expected_by was explicitly set.

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:06 PM, James B. Byrne <byrn...@harte-lyne.ca>wrote:

>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 15:51, David Johnston wrote:
> >>
> >> +Infinity was chosen as a default to avoid the complexities of
> >> dealing with NULL logic in SELECTS.  I suppose that the simplest
> >> solution is to go with a date of 9999-12-31 and treat that value
> >> like infinity.
> >
> > The "just make it work" solution has many merits - I would
> > also probably just use 9999-12-31 as a close approximation
> > for +infinity; which itself is just there because you are
> > avoiding "estimate is unknown".
> >
> > Why bother updating the "expected_by" value once the conveyance
> > is no longer pending?  Do you not really care if something
> > arrived early?  Even if you do not currently it seems a waste
> > to throw out the data when you can readily get the same result
> > as-needed (CASE WHEN expected_by <= arrived_at THEN arrived_at
> > ELSE expected_by END) without giving up the ability to calculate
>
>
> The main reason to update expected_by is that sometimes the
> conveyance arrives without the expected_by ever being set.  Leaving
> the expected_by value at infinity, or 99991231, or NULL, complicates
> other parts of the system.  However, leaving untouched expected_by
> values that are less than the infinite value is doable and is a
> better approach.
>
>
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