(Sorry for the dup post. I felt having a clean thread without having to
cross-reference was worth the minor faux pas.)

> 3. A safe, respectful, productive and collaborative environment is free
of comments related to gender, sexual orientation, disability,
physical appearance,
body size or race.

why not

> 3. A safe, respectful, productive and collaborative environment is free
of ad hominem.

I don't see why we need to limit comments like in the original: that's not
the point! The point is that people shouldn't be attacked!

Moreover,

> 2. The CoC is not about being offended. The act of being offended is
purely a recipient response and usually the offended individual is more
interested in being a victim than moving forward.

is very harsh.  It definitely needs to be rephrased or built on. What is
the point of this, by the way? If we state that personal attacks are
unbecoming of a member of this group, then does it matter if I'm offended
when someone says we should have a table that lacks 1-M 1-F constraints for
marriage? It's not an attack and trying to clarify the differences between
being offended because of an attack on me or just in general might make
things too awkward to write.

Jim

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Joshua D. Drake <j...@commandprompt.com>
wrote:

> On 01/11/2016 02:22 PM, Brian Dunavant wrote:
>
>> 3. A safe, respectful, productive and collaborative environment is free
>>> comments related to gender, sexual orientation, disability, physical
>>> appearance, body size or race.
>>>
>>
>> I think you meant "free OF comments".
>>
>
> I did.
>
>
>> However it still picks a few special classes of complaint, some of
>> which cause ambiguity such as 'gender'.  Does that mean I can't use
>> "he/she" pronouns?  It also implies that i'm allowed to criticize
>> people in other ways, say, their political affiliation or country.
>> Rather than list a bunch of "no no" perhaps something like:
>>
>> "3)  A safe, respectful, productive and collaborative environment is
>> free of negative personal criticism directed at a member of a
>> community, rather than at the technical merit of a topic."
>>
>>
> First, I want to make sure we don't get too far into the weeds here.
>
> I think your example is a good one but I do think we need examples so
> perhaps:
>
> A safe, respectful, productive and collaborative environment is free
> of non-technical or personal comments related to gender, sexual
> orientation, disability, physical appearance, body size or race.
>
> ???
>
> Sincerely,
>
> JD
>
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