On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Seamus Abshere <sea...@abshere.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 8:49 AM, Seamus Abshere wrote > > > Theoretically / blue sky, could there be a table or column type that > > > transparently handles "shared strings" like this, reducing size on disk > > > at the cost of lookup overhead for all queries? > > > (I guess maybe it's like TOAST, but content-hashed and de-duped and not > > > only for large objects?) > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017, at 01:12 PM, David G. Johnston wrote: > > Row-independence is baked into PostgreSQL pretty deeply... > > Could you say more about that? > Not intelligibly...basically as far as PostgreSQL is concerned all the data to reconstruct a row from a given table is present in that table. >From a practical perspective the "TOAST table" for a table IS part of the main table since it has no practical independent use. As an aside I was thinking along the lines of an actual compression routine which is what a spreadsheet file is able to do since a spreadsheet contains the data from every row and column in a single file and is able to compress the entire file by finding commonalities across rows and columns. A database generally cannot do that. As for "transparent lookup tables for text columns"...I suppose one could implement a "system-managed-enum" type with many of the same properties of an actual enum but avoiding many of its problems by not exposing the enum-ness to the user and instead just exposing the text labels...I suspect faced with prospect of doing something that complex most users would just setup a FK relationship. > What about the comparison to TOAST, which stores values off-table? > TOAST solves a technical problem related to the fact that records "on the table" have a very small size limitation (kb) while stored values can be at least as large as a GB. TOAST does involved compression but the input to the compression algorithm is a single cell (row and column) in a table. As noted above I consider the TOAST table and main table to be a single logical table. Like I said the enum type has similar properties to what you want - but Melvin is right that using it requires careful consideration of how your data might change in the future. David J.