Jeff Waugh, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, clued me in... I was mis-reading this: > If you're sure there are no old backends still running, > remove the shared memory block with ipcrm(1), or just > delete "/var/lib/pgsql/data/postmaster.pid". I was trying to delete the pid in the above file, it no longer existed, instead of deleting the file itself. Deleting the file "/var/lib/pgsql/data/postmaster.pid" itself did the trick. Thank you to Jeff. -- - Martin J. Brown, Jr. - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - PGP Public Key ID: 0xCED9BD8A Key Server: http://www.keyserver.net/en/ ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster