On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, CSN wrote:

> 
> --- "scott.marlowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, CSN wrote:
> > 
> > > Since you usually need to know the total number of
> > > rows a query would return, do you think it's
> > better
> > > to: 
> > > 
> > > a) Do one query with a LIMIT and OFFSET to get the
> > > results, and another COUNT query to get the total
> > > number of rows? 
> > > 
> > > b) Do a single query without a LIMIT and OFFSET,
> > then
> > > do a seek or similiar to get at the rows you want?
> > 
> > > 
> > > Most tutorials, code, etc. I've seen do "a". The
> > > eclipse library does "b".
> > 
> > Either way works.  Does the eclipse library use a
> > cursor, or grab the 
> > whole dataset and then seek on the client side?  If
> > it uses a cursor, I'd 
> > expect it to be the fastest and simplest
> > implementation.  Since a lot of 
> > libs are designed to work with MySQL, they often are
> > written in the first 
> > method, where select count(*) is quite quick on
> > MySQL, and MySQL doesn't 
> > have cursor support.
> > 
> > With Postgresql, the cursor is likely to be the
> > faster method.
> > 
> 
> Eclipse appears to just use pg_fetch_array($result,
> $index). That'd be pretty similiar to a cursor
> wouldn't it? i.e. only the specified rows would be
> sent to the client (but all rows would be in the
> server's memory).
> 
> Eclipse's docs make the argument that "b" is better
> because "a" still needs to select/examine all rows
> before doing the LIMIT and OFFSET.

If they aren't explicitly declaring a cursor, then b isn't exactly the 
same.  If you do:

select * from table order by fieldname

then 

$row = pg_fetch_array()

then the whole data set is returned to the client (i.e. php) before we can 
get the row.  Now, if they do:

begin;
declare bubba as cursor for select * from table order by fieldname;
move forward 100 in bubba;
fetch 5 from bubba;
rollback;

Then you get the same kind of effect, but only 5 rows have to be retrieved 
from the database to the client, and pg_fetch_array will now iterate over 
those 5 rows only, and then run dry, so to speak.


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