I'm a little late to the party, but figured I could at least offer some info for the archives.
If you don't know the user's password, and you have admin access, then it really doesn't matter. In fact, I set any special users (pgsql, mailman, etc.) up so that they *cannot* be logged into normally. Instead, do this: sudo su - pgsql and then all you need to know is your own password. You can use niutil to create and delete users and groups. Reading the man page and exploring a bit using the -list and -read options will be very informative. Here is a script I use to create a user. Execute it with sudo. niutil -create . /groups/pgsql niutil -createprop . /groups/pgsql gid 5001 niutil -create . /users/pgsql niutil -createprop . /users/pgsql uid 5001 niutil -createprop . /users/pgsql gid 5001 niutil -createprop . /users/pgsql passwd \* niutil -createprop . /users/pgsql home /Users/pgsql niutil -createprop . /users/pgsql shell /bin/tcsh gid and uid can be set to some non-conflicting number of your choice. I believe that numbers over 5000 do not show up in System Preferences or the login window. -- Jim Crate Deep Sky Technologies, Inc. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]