Dan Armbrust wrote:
You live in an interesting world... meanwhile, I'm here in the real world, using Eclipse - the best IDE I've ever used to develop java applications. Oh, wait, Eclipse is written in Java? I didn't think it was possible to write good apps in java? Certainly better than visual studio (and yes, I have to use both - eclipse is a far better IDE in my opinion). Oh, and I can run eclipse on my linux desktop as well as my windows desktop? Thats just cool. Oh, and my next machine? Definitely a Mac. And it woks there too - just like all of my SWT apps do.

I will admit, it is rather easy to write slow java swing applications There are a lot of poor ones out there. Its a shame that Sun botched swing so badly, and have never repaired it properly. Its not impossible to write fast, responsive apps in swing, it just takes skilled developers. And its a pain.

However, now with the emergence of SWT and modern JVM's - there is no reason for your java GUI to be any slower than anything else. The only excuse for a slow java app these days is the quality of the code that it is built with. And you can write a bad, slow app in any language.

Cool. At least one that actually knows what he's talking about and have real life experience. I'm also using Eclipse and a slew of other Java apps. No complaints whatsoever on performance. Not too happy about all C/C++ apps that crash on illegal memory access though...

+1 (or 10) for Java on the desktop.

I will not spend time on a war that cannot be fought in this forum. Just wanted to air my opinion this once :-)

Regards,
Thomas Hallgren


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