On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 03:49:01PM -0700, Shelby Cain wrote:
>  My experience with job queues comes from clients that mostly use Oracle as 
> the backend.  However, even with Oracle a queue table should be storing 
> information about a job and not have records unnecessarily locked simply 
> because they are being "worked on" by another hypothetical "job runner" 
> process... by this I mean that the status of a job should be updated to a 
> distinct state at any given moment in time (eg: unprocessed, processing, 
> processed).  In the case I present above, if you are using Postgresql you 
> wouldnt have any open long-running transactions on that table and vacuuming 
> should work... or am I misunderstanding the issue?

The issue is that vacuum has to base it's decisions not on the oldest
running transaction that has locks on a table, but on the oldest running
transaction in the entire database, because that transaction could start
reading any table at any time. Until that changes, long-running
transactions of any kind and heavy-update tables simply won't mix well
at all in a single database.

I recently proposed a way around this [1], but it didn't get much
traction.

[1] http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-05/msg00184.php
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