Hi, 

On April 16, 2026 4:45:55 AM EDT, Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 15.04.26 23:25, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]> writes:
>>> On 15.04.26 13:06, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
>>>> This was briefly discussed when PointerGetDatum() was changed from a
>>>> macro to a static inline function [1]. On that email, Peter pointed out
>>>> that the compiler was doing the same deduction that Coverity did now,
>>>> i.e. that if you pass the Datum returned by PointerGetDatum(&foo) to a
>>>> function, it cannot change *foo. I'm surprised we dismissed that worry
>>>> so quickly. If the compiler optimizes based on that assumption, you can
>>>> get incorrect code.
>> 
>>> I don't think this is in evidence.  AFAICT, it's just Coverity that is
>>> complaining here, which is its right, but the code is not incorrect.
>> 
>> Are you sure?  This seems like the sort of thing that will bite us on
>> the rear sometime in the future, as the compiler geeks put in more and
>> more aggressive optimizations.
>> 
>> I think we should at least test the theory that changing
>> PointerGetDatum to remove the const cast would silence Coverity's
>> complaint.  If it does not then we're attributing too much
>> intelligence to Coverity.  But if it does, then we've correctly
>> identified why it's complaining, and we should take seriously the
>> idea that they aren't the only ones making this sort of deduction
>> (or won't be for long).
>
>I think it's quite clear to me that Coverity is complaining about this 
>correctly, in its view of the world.  Compilers sometimes complain about this, 
>too, although in this case they apparently don't look quite as deeply to do 
>this analysis.
>
>What I'm missing here is, essentially where the previous thread stopped: What 
>is the overall message that we want to communicate with the API?
>
>If the default assumption is that what pointers converted to Datums point to 
>should not be modified on the other side (where the Datum is converted back to 
>a pointer), then the current declaration of PointerGetDatum() is suitable, and 
>the GIN code can be considered an exception and we make a special API for 
>that.  The previous thread proposed NonconstPointerGetDatum().

To me it seems way way way to dangerous to just redefine what PointerGetDatum() 
means for all existing callers, without doing an exhaustive verification of all 
the callers.

Separately from that, it doesn't seem defensible to take a const pointer and 
return a non const one. Why is that sane? 

Greetings, 

Andres
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


Reply via email to