Hi,

On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 at 23:31, Ayush Tiwari <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 at 22:21, Heikki Linnakangas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 15/04/2026 16:57, Ayush Tiwari wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > The comment above the PM_STARTUP startup-process-failure case still says
>> > that there are no other processes running yet, so the postmaster can
>> just
>> > exit.
>> >
>> > That no longer matches the current startup flow: PM_STARTUP may already
>> > have auxiliary processes running by that point. The attached patch
>> updates
>> > that comment to describe the current behavior.
>>
>> Hmm, shouldn't the postmaster kill and wait for the auxiliary processes
>> to exit first in that case? ISTM we need code changes here, not just
>> comments.
>>
>> - Heikki
>>
>>
> Yes, I agree, code change is required here.
>
> The proper thing is to
> route this through the existing crash-handling path so the postmaster
> SIGQUITs the aux children and waits for them to exit before terminating.
>
> I think the minimal change is:
>
>   1. Replace the ExitPostmaster(1) shortcut in the PM_STARTUP
>      startup-failure case with HandleChildCrash(), which calls
>      TerminateChildren(SIGQUIT) and transitions through the state
>      machine.  Set StartupStatus = STARTUP_CRASHED so the state
>      machine does not try to reinitialize.
>
>   2. Let HandleFatalError() handle PM_STARTUP by transitioning to
>      PM_WAIT_BACKENDS, instead of the current Assert(false).
>
>
The minimal fix turned out to be smaller than I first described, the
existing paragraph immediately below the ExitPostmaster(1) block already
handles !EXIT_STATUS_0 with StartupStatus != STARTUP_SIGNALED correctly
(sets STARTUP_CRASHED and HandleChildCrash). So, likely fix would be:

1. Deleting the PM_STARTUP ExitPostmaster(1) shortcut, and letting
execution fall through to the next stanza.

2. Replacing the Assert(false) for PM_STARTUP in HandleFatalError() with a
fall-through to UpdatePMState(PM_WAIT_BACKENDS).

Verification that I did for patch:

On a fresh initdb'd cluster, I zeroed out the first WAL segment to force
the startup process to FATAL at StartupXLOG, then ran PG in foreground
under strace.

Before (master):
  LOG:  startup process (PID N) exited with exit code 1
  LOG:  aborting startup due to startup process failure
  LOG:  database system is shut down

  strace of the postmaster PID shows 0 kill() calls to children before
  exit_group(1). Checkpointer, bgwriter and io workers were running at
  the time of the failure and were orphaned.


After (patched):
  LOG:  startup process (PID N) exited with exit code 1
  LOG:  terminating any other active server processes
<state transitions PM_STARTUP -> PM_WAIT_BACKENDS -> PM_WAIT_DEAD_END
   -> PM_NO_CHILDREN>
  LOG:  shutting down due to startup process failure
  LOG:  database system is shut down

  strace shows 8 SIGQUIT deliveries (4 children, each signaled by PID
  and by process-group) before the postmaster's own exit_group(1).

I've attached a patch, please review and let me know your thoughts.

Regards,
Ayush

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