On 10/31/21 21:16, Andres Freund wrote:
Hi,

On 2021-10-31 15:43:57 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> writes:
On 2021-10-31 10:59:19 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
No DBA would be likely to consider it as anything but log spam.

I don't agree at all. No postgres instance should be run without
log_checkpoints enabled. Performance is poor if checkpoints are
triggered by anything but time, and that can only be diagnosed if
log_checkpoints is on.

This is complete nonsense.

Shrug. It's based on many years of doing or being around people doing
postgres support escalation shifts. And it's not like log_checkpoints
incurs meaningful overhead or causes that much log volume.


Yeah. In tuned instances the checkpoints happen fairly infrequently most of the time (occasional batch loads being an exception, etc.), so the extra log traffic should be fairly negligible. And it's not like we can make checkpointer infinitely smart - sometimes the cause is a change in the workload etc.

OTOH most of this data (# of timed/xlog checkpoints, buffers written by checkpointer etc.) is available in the pg_stat_bgwriter view, and people generally have monitoring these days.

I don't have a strong opinion on changing the default - we generally recommend changing it, and we'll keep doing it, but it's usually part of various other recommendations so this one tweak does not eliminate that.


regards

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Tomas Vondra
EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company


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