Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> writes: > On 2022-04-17 11:51:58 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> The fact that we have a snapshot at the instant of fetch doesn't prove >> that it existed continually since we fetched the toast reference, >> which seems to be the condition we actually need to assure.
> Right. >> (And TBH I see little reason to think that whether the snapshot is the >> CatalogSnapshot or not changes things in any meaningful way.) > It is a meaningful difference, see e.g. the bug referenced above. Well, that's true given the current arrangements for managing CatalogSnapshot; but that doesn't make the CatalogSnapshot any less of a protection when it exists. The direction I was vaguely imagining is that we create some refcount-like infrastructure directly ensuring that once a snapshot is used to read a toast reference, it gets kept around until we dereference or discard that reference. With a scheme like that, there'd be no reason to discriminate against a CatalogSnapshot as being the protective snapshot. (I hasten to add that I have no idea how to make this half-baked plan work, and there may be better solutions anyway.) >> While it's something to worry about, there's no reason to think >> that v15 is any worse than prior versions in this area, is there? >> So I'm inclined to remove this from the list of v15 open items, >> or at least demote the remaining concern to "older bug" status. > Yes. OK, I'll update the open-items page. regards, tom lane