Greetings Postgres humans,

There was much discussion of this proposal at PGConf.eu <http://pgconf.eu/> 
last week, between Gabriele Bartolini, Peter Eisentraut, Christoph Berg, and 
Andres Freund (all Cc’d here), and me, among others. We agreed, in principle, 
to an approach to this feature. Overall I think the proposal doesn’t need to 
change, but there are a couple of things to tweak, and I’ve added a list of use 
cases I’m aware of below, plus a tangent on the challenges of loading system 
DOS.

Quoting a lot and responding inline.

On Oct 10, 2024, at 4:34 PM, David E. Wheeler <da...@justatheory.com> wrote:

> I guess I should get off my butt and do it. So let’s do this. Here’s what I 
> propose.
> 
> *   When an extension is installed, all of its files should live in a single 
> directory. These include:
> 
>    *   The Control file in directory describes extension
>    *   Subdirectories for SQL, shared libraries, docs, binaries
>        (also locales and tsearch dictionaries?)

Just to be clear, these directories correspond to the `pg_config `--*dir` 
options, excluding include directories:

```
❯ pg_config --help | grep 'dir\b' | grep -v include
  --bindir              show location of user executables
  --docdir              show location of documentation files
  --htmldir             show location of HTML documentation files
  --libdir              show location of object code libraries
  --pkglibdir           show location of dynamically loadable modules
  --localedir           show location of locale support files
  --mandir              show location of manual pages
  --sharedir            show location of architecture-independent support files
  --sysconfdir          show location of system-wide configuration files

```

But perhaps also excluding --sysconfdir?

> *   Next, there should be an extension lookup path. The first item in the 
> path is the compile-time default, and ideally would include only core 
> extensions. Subsequent paths would be set by a GUC, similar to 
> dynamic_library_path, but only for extensions (including their shared 
> libraries).

Let’s call it extension_path.

I also suggest adding two new pg_config options, for the directory containing 
core extensions, and a second for system or user extensions. Something like:

  --extension-dir      show location of core extensions
  --extension-dir-user show location of user extensions

The default value for the `extension_path` GUC would be, assuming some new 
template variables:

    extension_path = '$userextdir,$extdir'

This will allow installers (PGXS) to know where to install non-core extensions 
without bothering the user about it.

> *   Modify PGXS (or create a new installer CLI used by PGXS?) to install an 
> extension according to this pattern. Allow the specification of a prefix. 
> This should differ from the current `PREFIX`, in that the values of 
> `sharedir`, `pkglibdir`, etc. would not be fully-duplicated under the prefix, 
> but point to a directory used in the extension path. For example, when 
> installing an extension need “pair", something like
> 
>        make install BASE_DIR=/opt/pg/extension
> 
>    Would create `/opt/pg/extension/pair`, rather than 
> `/opt/pg/extension/$(pg_config --sharedir)/extension/pair`.
> 
> *   Perhaps there could also be an option to symlink binary files or man 
> pages to keep paths simple.
> 
> *   For CREATE EXTENSION, Postgres would look for an extension on the file 
> system by directory name in each of the extension paths instead of control 
> file name. It would then find the control file in that directory and the 
> necessary SQL and shared library files in the `sql` and `lib` subdirectories 
> of that directory.

In discussion, I think we clarified that it should look for 
$extension/$extension.control.

> *   Binary-only extensions might also be installed here; the difference is 
> they have no control file. The LOAD command and shared_preload_libraries 
> would need to know to look here, too.

Or perhaps we should require a control file for these, too, but add a “type” 
key or some such? Maybe such a shared module could be supported by CREATE 
EXTENSION, as well as, but not include SQL files?

> The basic idea, then, is three-fold:
> 
> 1.  This pattern is more like a packaging pattern than CREATE 
> EXTENSION-specific, since it includes other types of extensions
> 
> 2.  All the files for a given extension live within a single directory, 
> making it easier to reason about what’s installed and what’s not.
> 
> 3.  These extension packages can live in multiple paths.

For dupes, the first one found in the list of extension_path directories is the 
one that Postgres will load.

We also discussed including the version in the directory name, so that multiple 
versions could be installed at once. Not sure how Postgres would pick the right 
one, though.

> Some examples. Core extensions, like citext, would live in, say, $(pg_config 
> --extensiondir)/citext), and have a structure such as:
> 
> ```
> citext
> ├── citext.control
> ├── lib
> │   ├── citext.dylib
> │   └── bitcode
> │   ├── citext
> │   │   └── citext.bc
> │   └── citext.index.bc
> └── sql
>    ├── citext--1.0--1.1.sql
>    ├── citext--1.1--1.2.sql
>    ├── citext--1.2--1.3.sql
>    ├── citext--1.3--1.4.sql
>    ├── citext--1.4--1.5.sql
>    ├── citext--1.4.sql
>    └── citext--1.5--1.6.sql
> ```
> 
> Third-party extensions would live in one or more other directories on the 
> file system, unknown at compile time, but set in the extension path GUC and 
> accessible to/owned by the Postgres system user. Let’s say we set `/opt/pgxn` 
> as one of the paths. Within that directory, we might have a directory for a 
> pure SQL extension in a a directory named “pair” that looks like this:
> 
> ```
> pair
> ├── LICENSE.md
> ├── README.md
> ├── pair.control
> ├── doc
> │   ├── html
> │   │   └── pair.html
> │   └── pair.md
> └── sql
> ├── pair--1.0--1.1.sql
> └── pair--1.1.sql
> ```
> 
> A binary application like pg_top would live in the pg_top directory, 
> structured something like:
> 
> ```
> pg_top
> ├── HISTORY.rst
> ├── INSTALL.rst
> ├── LICENSE
> ├── README.rst
> ├── bin
> |   └── pg_top
> └── doc
>    └── man
>        └── man3
>            └── pg_top.3
> ```
> 
> And a C extension like semver would live in the semver directory and be 
> structured something like:
> 
> ```
> semver
> ├── LICENSE
> ├── README.md
> ├── semver.control
> ├── doc
> │   └── semver.md
> ├── lib
> │   ├── semver.dylib
> │   ├── bitcode
> │   └── semver
> │   │   └── semver.bc
> │   └── semver.index.bc
> └── sql
>    ├── semver--1.0--1.1.sql
>    └── semver--1.1.sql
> ```

Another example: a binary-only extension loaded via LOAD (or 
*_preload_libraries), and not `CREATE EXTENSION`, like auto_explain:

```
auto_explain
├── auto_explain.control
└── lib
    ├── auto_explain.dylib
    ├── bitcode
    └── auto_explain
    │   └── auto_explain.bc
    └── auto_explain.index.bc
```

I’ve included the control file, as suggested above, as a way to manage *all* 
extensions, not just `CREATE EXTENSION` extensions. A non-core extension would 
be the same, but might include other files like a README, LICENSE, etc.

One wrinkle: Some extensions, such as pg_hint_plan[2], include both a `CREATE 
EXTENSION` extension and a `LOAD` module, and both have the same name. Not sure 
how best to adapt for such a case to the proposal to include a control file for 
both types of extension --- because both would have the same control file name. 
My proposal is that names would be unique between both `CREATE EXTENSION` and 
`LOAD` extensions, in which case one or the other extension would need to be 
renamed (probably the `LOAD` extension). Then perhaps the `CREATE EXTENSION` 
extension could declare the `LOAD` extension as a dependency.

## Use Cases

Here’s how the proposed file layout and extension_path feature would work for 
the use cases that have driven it.

### Apt/Yum testing

Rather than patching Postgres to look up pg_config directories under a 
prefix[3], a packager who wants to run tests and therefore needs to install an 
extension where Postgres can find it without writing to the installed server 
would follow these steps:

*   Set the extension_path GUC to search the package DESTDIR.
*   Install the extension into that directory: `make install BASE_DIR=$DESTDIR`
*   Run `make installcheck`

This should allow Postgres to find and load the extension during the tests. The 
Postgres installation will not have been modified, only the extension_path will 
have been changed.

### Postgres.app

The contents of the macOS Postgres.app bundle must be immutable in order to 
validate against the signature generated by an Apple-provided certificate. In 
order to allow extensions to be installed without changing the app bundle, the 
app would either:

1.  Ship with an extension_path pointing to a directory outside the bundle, and 
then users have to know what this directory is when `make install`ing an 
extension; or

2.  Ship with the --extension-dir-user pg_config value described above pointing 
to a directory outside the bundle, into which all non-core extensions would be 
`make install`ed into.

### Docker/Kubernetes

Like Postgres.app, Docker images are immutable, but unlike Postgres.app, they 
represent the entire system. The solution is identical to that for 
Postgres.app, except that instead of installing extensions into 
--extension-dir-user, they would be mounted as volumes in that directory.

So, instead of `make install`ing there, a Kubernetes pod can be configured to 
mount a volume for each extension. Need to add a new extension to a Pod? Just 
mount a volume for it that contains the necessary files, as described in the 
examples above.

One wrinkle: Some Kubernetes providers limit the number of volumes that can be 
mounted[4]. If someone needed more volumes than that, one would need to adopt a 
different pattern. Perhaps there could be one volume for the 
extension-dir-user, and an external service could add any and all necessary 
extensions to it?

## Challenge: Third Party Dependencies

Some extensions require third-party dependencies, usually provided by the OS. 
For example, pgsql-http[5] compiles into a DSO that dynamically requires 
another DSO, libcurl. Finding and loading of such dependencies is handled by 
the OS, not by Postgres. This configuration is an annoyance on most systems, 
where the user has to figure out what dependencies to install from their OS 
package manager in order to get it to work.

However, it presents a greater challenge for immutable conditions, as in Docker 
and Kubernetes containers. How can system dependencies be added without 
breaking immutability? There are a few options:

1.  Just include all likely dependencies in the base image. This works today, 
but it would be preferable not to include additional dependencies that may 
never be used. It also can unnecessarily bloat an image. Also just kinda gross.

2.  Mount a volume with all of the default base image DSOs, then have an 
external process add DSOs to it when required for a new extension. This also 
might work today, although it requires coding that external process (e.g., a 
Kubernetes operator).

3.  Mount a second volume for non-base image DSOs, and again have an external 
process put them there when needed, but then use some method to tell the OS 
where to find them, since they won’t be in the default location. More on that 
below.

4.  Mount individual DSO files as volumes[6] as needed in the system shared lib 
directory where the OS can find them. The wrinkle here is the mount limitation 
imposed by some providers, detailed above.

For solutions that require installing a DSO outside the default directories 
that the system is aware of, one needs a way to tell the system where to find 
them. There are two basic methods for doing so:

1.  Set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the directory in which third-party DSOs are 
installed. Today, however, this is considered an insecure pattern[7]. It 
doesn’t work at all on macOS, for example, unless you disable SIP[8]. Few will 
do so, nor should they. Andres Freund reports that it’s on its way out on 
Linux, too. So perhaps some can do this, but it sounds as if LD_LIBRARY_PATH’s 
days are numbered.

2.  Use `-rpath` when compiling the DSOs to point to the proper place. This 
embeds the path in the DSO, so it always looks in the same place. However, this 
requires that the DSO be recompiled for every variant of the `-rpath`, which 
creates challenges for non-path specific binary packaging --- or if an OS 
vendor changes the director. But perhaps Postgres itself could be compiled with 
an `-rpath` that will be used when loading extensions, so the extension DSOs 
themselves don’t have to know the path? Then the base image just needs to be 
compiled with that option.

## Comments and Corrections

I think I captured most of the issues we discussed at PGConf.eu 
<http://pgconf.eu/> last week; please correct any misunderstandings, 
inaccuracies, and oversights you spot! And are there any other issues you can 
think of with the overall approach?

Thanks for reading to the end!

Best,

David

[1]: 
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/D30A91FA-A6D4-4737-941F-0BBB2984B730%40justatheory.com
[2]: https://github.com/ossc-db/pg_hint_plan/
[3]: https://commitfest.postgresql.org/50/4913/
[4]: https://superuser.com/a/1603150/285886
[5]: https://github.com/pramsey/pgsql-http
[6]: https://stackoverflow.com/a/42260979/79202
[7]: http://xahlee.info/UnixResource_dir/_/ldpath.html
[8]: 
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/disabling-and-enabling-system-integrity-protection



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