On 26/11/2024 18:55, Andres Freund wrote:
I somewhat regularly start postmaster with log_min_messages DEBUG3-5. One thing that makes that unnecessarily annoying is postmaster's environment dump at startup. It's visually hard to skip over, as it emits each environment variable as a separate log message.
I never do that and therefore didn't realize that we print that :-).
It's even worse if one uses log_error_verbosity=verbose or such, to get log lines: 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG: 00000: postgres: PostmasterMain: initial environment dump: 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION: PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:887 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG: 00000: ----------------------------------------- 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION: PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:890 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG: 00000: SHELL=/bin/bash ... 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION: PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:893 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG: 00000: DISPLAY=:0 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION: PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:893 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG: 00000: SHLVL=1 ... 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG: 00000: LC_TIME=C 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION: PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:893 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG: 00000: ----------------------------------------- 2024-11-26 11:34:17.739 EST [1097046][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION: PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:895 isn't trivial to skim. I think the dump is occasionally useful, so I don't think the best course is to remove it entirely. But I think we could fairly easily improve the situation by emitting all environment variables as a single elog message. 2024-11-26 11:35:58.877 EST [1097572][postmaster][:0][] DEBUG: 00000: postgres: PostmasterMain: initial environment dump: SHELL=/bin/bash ... DISPLAY=:0 SHLVL=1 ... LC_TIME=C 2024-11-26 11:35:58.877 EST [1097572][postmaster][:0][] LOCATION: PostmasterMain, postmaster.c:879 is - IMNSHO - a heck of a lot more skimmable. In the attached patch I chose to omit the "-----------------------------------------" that we previously emmitted. IMO they're not really needed anymore now that this is emitted as one message.
+1
I'm not sure why the message includes "progname" and PostmasterMain. Particularly the latter seems redundant with the elog infrastructure today, the message is quite old (an elog since a033daf56639 in 2002 and an fprintf in the current location since ebb0a2014930, in 2000). But I didn't touch that for now.
+1 for removing PostmasterMain. The progname might be useful I guess, but it'd not clear from the message that that's what "postgres" is. Maybe change it to "progname: \"%s\", initial environment: ".
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