On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 3:51 PM Greg Sabino Mullane <htamf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I may have missed something (we seem to have a lot of threads for this 
> subject), but we are in beta and both pg_dump and pg_upgrade seem to be 
> opt-out? I still object strongly to this;  pg_dump is meant to be a canonical 
> representation of the schema and data. Adding metadata that can change from 
> dump to dump seems wrong, and should be opt-in. I've not been convinced 
> otherwise why stats should be output by default.
>
> To be clear, I 100% want it to be the default for pg_upgrade.
>
> Maybe we are just leaving it enabled to see if anyone complains in beta, but 
> I don't want us to forget about it. :)

Yeah. This could use comments from a few more people, but I really
hope we don't ship the final release this way. We do have a "Enable
statistics in pg_dump by default" item in the open items list under
"Decisions to Recheck Mid-Beta", but that's arguably now. It also sort
of looks like we might have a consensus anyway: Jeff said "I lean
towards making it opt-in for pg_dump and opt-out for pg_upgrade" and I
agree with that and it seems you do, too. So perhaps Jeff should make
it so?

-- 
Robert Haas
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