Hi,

One way to move to a newer glibc-based Linux distribution but keep the
locales working the same* without keeping the associated zombie C code
alive is to find the source system's collation definition source
files, compile them with the localedef on the target system and point
to the top-level directory with the environment variable LOCPATH.

That runs directly into the naivity of commit d5ac14f9's
gnu_get_libc_version() kludge.  So here's a patch that allows a brave
user of that recompilation technique to drop a custom version string
into a file called one of:

      * $LOCPATH/<collcollate>/LC_COLLATE.version
      * $LOCPATH/<collcollate>/version
      * $LOCPATH/LC_COLLATE.version
      * $LOCPATH/version

This way you can make your custom locales' reported version agree with
wherever they came from to skip those mismatch warnings, at whichever
granularity suits you.  Or you can design some other scheme for
labeling versions.  The attached POC shows this working, though it
lacks documentation for now as I wanted to float the general idea
first.

My preference would be for a tool-supported way for locale components
to report their own version with a new API[1], and I hope that someone
might eventually consider writing and proposing a patch to glibc for
that.  But in the meantime, I figured that users willing to compile
their own locale definitions for PostgreSQL's benefit might want to
drop their own version string into a text file.  The patch has no
effect otherwise, except for a few rare and harmless open() -> ENOENT
system calls if you have defined LOCPATH without supplying a custom
version file.

Returning gnu_get_libc_version() when you set LOCPATH is arguably a
bug and should at the very least be suppressed, I think.

*Of course you have to make sure you know what you're doing.  For
example we learned on this list of some tricky edge cases, mainly
around the treatment of Unicode-order sequences for eg C.UTF-8 which
began as buggy local patches in some distros' glibc C code, but at
least that case has been removed from our problem space by the new
built-in provider.  I'm interested in hearing about other concrete
examples of the locale-recompilation technique failing to be perfect,
and getting to the bottom of them; I have yet to hear of a real world
system that fails amcheck when using locale definitions ported in this
way.

[1] https://www.mail-archive.com/austin-group-l@opengroup.org/msg12849.html
From ab504665cc51814bbe0d8757d35e331fd9b6a41a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Thomas Munro <thomas.mu...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 12:19:53 +1200
Subject: [PATCH] Load optional collation version from glibc LOCPATH.

One technique for dealing with glibc locale definition changes across
Linux distribution upgrades or migrations is to compile the locale
definitions from the source system with the target system's localedef
tool, and then point to the newly compiled locales with the LOCPATH
environment variable, with certain caveats.

Unfortunately this breaks the rather simple-minded approach in commit
d5ac14f9, which reports the new system's glibc library version for lack
of anything better.  Spurious warnings about mismatched collation are
reported, defeating the goal of the LOCPATH-based upgrade/migration
technique.

Since neither POSIX nor glibc defines a way for locales to report their
version (cf FreeBSD querylocale(), ICU ucol_getVersion(), Windows
GetNLSVersionEx()), invent a way for a user of the LOCPATH technique to
supply user-defined version information.  This can be used to store the
version string of the source system, or invent a new convention for
labeling collation versions.  The version is read from the first text
file found in this list:

  * $LOCPATH/<collcollate>/LC_COLLATE.version
  * $LOCPATH/<collcollate>/version
  * $LOCPATH/LC_COLLATE.version
  * $LOCPATH/version

Only if none of these files are found will the glibc library's reported
version be used, as before.  There is no change in behaviour for most
users, since LOCPATH is not normally defined.  Non-glibc builds are not
affected.  glibc itself has no knowledge of these files, which are a new
PostgreSQL invention that relies only on knowledge of how glibc's
compiled locales are laid out, including "normalization" of the codeset
part of the <collcollate> part.

Back-patch to 13, where d5ac14f9 shipped.
---
 src/backend/main/main.c                |   2 +
 src/backend/utils/adt/pg_locale_libc.c | 126 ++++++++++++++++++++++++-
 src/include/utils/pg_locale.h          |   1 +
 3 files changed, 127 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/backend/main/main.c b/src/backend/main/main.c
index 7d63cf94a6b..7dd7060c93a 100644
--- a/src/backend/main/main.c
+++ b/src/backend/main/main.c
@@ -113,6 +113,8 @@ main(int argc, char *argv[])
 	MyProcPid = getpid();
 	MemoryContextInit();
 
+	pg_locale_init_libc();
+
 	/*
 	 * Set reference point for stack-depth checking.  (There's no point in
 	 * enabling this before error reporting works.)
diff --git a/src/backend/utils/adt/pg_locale_libc.c b/src/backend/utils/adt/pg_locale_libc.c
index 199857e22db..c6403dda2c8 100644
--- a/src/backend/utils/adt/pg_locale_libc.c
+++ b/src/backend/utils/adt/pg_locale_libc.c
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
 #include "catalog/pg_collation.h"
 #include "mb/pg_wchar.h"
 #include "miscadmin.h"
+#include "storage/fd.h"
 #include "utils/builtins.h"
 #include "utils/formatting.h"
 #include "utils/memutils.h"
@@ -33,6 +34,10 @@
 #include <shlwapi.h>
 #endif
 
+#ifdef __GLIBC__
+static char *glibc_locpath = NULL;
+#endif
+
 /*
  * Size of stack buffer to use for string transformations, used to avoid heap
  * allocations in typical cases. This should be large enough that most strings
@@ -119,6 +124,23 @@ static const struct collate_methods collate_methods_libc_win32_utf8 = {
 };
 #endif
 
+void
+pg_locale_init_libc(void)
+{
+#ifdef __GLIBC__
+	/* https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Locale-Names.html */
+	const char *locpath = getenv("LOCPATH");
+
+	/*
+	 * Capture a copy of LOCPATH so that get_collation_actual_version_libc()
+	 * can find optional user-supplied custom version strings when using a
+	 * non-default tree of locale files.
+	 */
+	if (locpath)
+		glibc_locpath = MemoryContextStrdup(TopMemoryContext, locpath);
+#endif
+}
+
 size_t
 strlower_libc(char *dst, size_t dstsize, const char *src,
 			  ssize_t srclen, pg_locale_t locale)
@@ -655,6 +677,43 @@ strnxfrm_libc(char *dest, size_t destsize, const char *src, ssize_t srclen,
 	return result;
 }
 
+#if defined(__GLIBC__)
+/*
+ * Read version string from user-supplied file into a palloc'd string with any
+ * trailing whitespace removed.  Return NULL if the file doesn't exist.
+ */
+static char *
+read_collversion_from_file(const char *path)
+{
+	char		buffer[TEXTBUFLEN];
+	ssize_t		size;
+	int			fd;
+
+	fd = OpenTransientFile(path, O_RDONLY);
+	if (fd < 0)
+	{
+		if (errno == ENOENT)
+			return NULL;
+		ereport(ERROR, errmsg("could not open file \"%s\": %m", path));
+	}
+	size = read(fd, buffer, sizeof(buffer) - 1);
+	if (size < 0)
+	{
+		int			save_errno = errno;
+
+		CloseTransientFile(fd);
+		errno = save_errno;
+		ereport(ERROR, errmsg("could not read from file \"%s\": %m", path));
+	}
+	while (size > 0 && isspace((unsigned char) buffer[size - 1]))
+		size--;
+	buffer[size] = 0;
+	CloseTransientFile(fd);
+
+	return pstrdup(buffer);
+}
+#endif
+
 char *
 get_collation_actual_version_libc(const char *collcollate)
 {
@@ -665,8 +724,71 @@ get_collation_actual_version_libc(const char *collcollate)
 		pg_strcasecmp("POSIX", collcollate) != 0)
 	{
 #if defined(__GLIBC__)
-		/* Use the glibc version because we don't have anything better. */
-		collversion = pstrdup(gnu_get_libc_version());
+
+		/*
+		 * If the user defined the environment variable LOCPATH (a glibc
+		 * extension) to override the search location for locale definitions,
+		 * perhaps pointing to definitions compiled from another distribution
+		 * or version of glibc as part of an upgrade strategy, provide a way
+		 * for the reported version string to be loaded from
+		 * $LOCPATH/{collcollate}/LC_COLLATE.version, ../version, or the same
+		 * names at top level in $LOCPATH.
+		 *
+		 * This convention is a PostgreSQL invention not known to glibc.
+		 * Neither glibc nor POSIX provides a way to store or query a version
+		 * string inside locale components themselves.
+		 */
+		if (glibc_locpath)
+		{
+			char		collcollate_dir[LOCALE_NAME_BUFLEN];
+			char		pathname[MAXPGPATH];
+			char	   *p;
+
+			/* lower-case and digits only in codeset part, .UTF-8 -> .utf8 */
+			snprintf(collcollate_dir, sizeof(collcollate_dir), "%s",
+					 collcollate);
+			p = strchr(collcollate_dir, '.');
+			if (p)
+			{
+				++p;
+				while (*p)
+				{
+					if (!isalnum(*p))
+					{
+						memmove(p, p + 1, strlen(p));	/* counts terminator */
+						continue;
+					}
+					*p = tolower((unsigned char) *p);
+					++p;
+				}
+			}
+
+			snprintf(pathname, sizeof(pathname), "%s/%s/LC_COLLATE.version",
+					 glibc_locpath, collcollate_dir);
+			collversion = read_collversion_from_file(pathname);
+			if (collversion == NULL)
+			{
+				snprintf(pathname, sizeof(pathname), "%s/%s/version",
+						 glibc_locpath, collcollate_dir);
+				collversion = read_collversion_from_file(pathname);
+			}
+			if (collversion == NULL)
+			{
+				snprintf(pathname, sizeof(pathname), "%s/LC_COLLATE.version",
+						 glibc_locpath);
+				collversion = read_collversion_from_file(pathname);
+			}
+			if (collversion == NULL)
+			{
+				snprintf(pathname, sizeof(pathname), "%s/version",
+						 glibc_locpath);
+				collversion = read_collversion_from_file(pathname);
+			}
+		}
+
+		/* Use the glibc version if we don't have anything better. */
+		if (collversion == NULL)
+			collversion = pstrdup(gnu_get_libc_version());
 #elif defined(LC_VERSION_MASK)
 		locale_t	loc;
 
diff --git a/src/include/utils/pg_locale.h b/src/include/utils/pg_locale.h
index 7b8cbf58d2c..820937ef062 100644
--- a/src/include/utils/pg_locale.h
+++ b/src/include/utils/pg_locale.h
@@ -121,6 +121,7 @@ struct pg_locale_struct
 	}			info;
 };
 
+extern void pg_locale_init_libc(void);
 extern void init_database_collation(void);
 extern pg_locale_t pg_newlocale_from_collation(Oid collid);
 
-- 
2.39.5

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