On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 at 05:58, Peter Eisentraut <pe...@eisentraut.org> wrote: > Can you explain the motivation for this change a bit more?
A few main reasons (from important to unimportant): 1. For new/irregular contributors the old names were really not obvious IMO. It took me 3+ years to get the mental association with March, that that was the final one for the release. 2. Looking up a historic patch from the mailinglist in the CF app, should now give you a good idea what PG version it got in. (e.g. Oh, AIO support got committed in PG18-Final) 3. The March commitfest is actually not just March, it ends at the feature freeze. Which again is not obvious for many irregular users. 4. For the Draft CFs we needed a new naming scheme, and this aligns nicely with it. 5. It's a little bit shorter > I think I kind of like the calendar hints that the previous naming > gives. To be clear, this new naming scheme is definitely up for discussion. It's easily changeable/revertible/tunable. However, unless there's an overwhelming negative response to this email thread about this, I think it's worth trying out. If it's not to people's liking after trying it out for a while (e.g. after one or two commitfests), then we can still easily change the names back to the old scheme (even of already created/closed commitfests). > You can estimate how long ago something was or how long you > still have to finish or prepare something. The release number isn't > that meaningful, and the numbering withing the release less so. To be clear, I did not intend to make this harder to find out.. The dates are still visible on the homepage, just next to the name instead of in the name. I realized now, they are indeed missing in a few other places. Specifically the title of a commitfest page, and the patch page. I fixed those now, if you find other places please let me know. > Also, I wonder if this scheme would cause confusion about the question, > when and where am I allowed to submit patches for PG20? Would that go > into, say, PG19-4 or into PG20-Drafts? I don't think this will be a problem in practice. PG20-Drafts and PG20-1 will open at the same time: 1st of March. Before that time people will only be able to submit to PG19-Drafts and PG19-X (with X depending on the time of year). > Actually, even as I'm typing this message, I'm mentally confusing PG19-3 > with "March". The number "3" just has these connotations of aaah, > better get it done. ;-) Yeah, I totally get that, there's definitely some trained stress about the number 3 for me too. But as explained in my number one reason for the change, new users don't have that stress yet. I think Final has those stressful connotations more naturally (and I expect getting used to Final shouldn't be too hard for you either).
