Hi,

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 12:53:41PM +0100, Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
> > On 14 Nov 2025, at 11:47, Michael Banck <[email protected]> wrote:
> > while looking through postgresql.conf on PG18, I noticed that
> > password_encryption mentions md5 as valid alternative to scram-sha-256.
> > I think it would be useful to mention md5 is deprecated so that people
> > looking at it (but have otherwise not gotten the memo) will realize and
> > hopefully act on it.
> 
> No objection.  I suspect the overlap between users who don't read release 
> notes
> and users who read .conf.sample comments closely is pretty small, but it
> certainly won't hurt.

I was under the impression (and it is the case on Debian/Ubuntu at
least, but pretty sure also for the RPM-based packaging) that the
content of postgresql.conf.sample was folded into the default
postgresql.conf on instance creation via distribution tools, so I think
people would generally see this (for new instances) if they look around
that part of their config files.

> -#password_encryption = scram-sha-256 # scram-sha-256 or md5
> +#password_encryption = scram-sha-256 # scram-sha-256 or (deprecated) md5
>  #scram_iterations = 4096
>  #md5_password_warnings = on
> 
> Maybe this should be combined with a comment on md5_password_warnings as well?

Good point, how about the attached?


Michael
From cf89ec0757cdb5a9df7488379fb97fd8feeaf2d2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Michael Banck <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 11:38:45 +0100
Subject: [PATCH v2] Mention that md5-hashed passwords are deprecated in sample
 postgresql.conf.

Version 18 deprecates passwords hashed with password_encryption = 'md5', but
the comments for this GUC in postgresql.conf.sample did not mention this.
Adding a deprecation notice here might make more people aware of this and
lead them to migrate to SCRAM. While at, add a comment to the
md5_password_warnings GUC mentioning the MD5 deprecation there as well.
---
 src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample b/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
index 08bcef50c19..5bfb0d8e297 100644
--- a/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
+++ b/src/backend/utils/misc/postgresql.conf.sample
@@ -94,9 +94,9 @@
 # - Authentication -
 
 #authentication_timeout = 1min		# 1s-600s
-#password_encryption = scram-sha-256	# scram-sha-256 or md5
+#password_encryption = scram-sha-256	# scram-sha-256 or (deprecated) md5
 #scram_iterations = 4096
-#md5_password_warnings = on
+#md5_password_warnings = on		# display md5 deprecation warnings?
 #oauth_validator_libraries = ''	# comma-separated list of trusted validator modules
 
 # GSSAPI using Kerberos
-- 
2.39.5

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