On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 9:21 AM Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2025 7:28 AM Euler Taveira <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2025, at 3:57 AM, Amit Kapila wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the unlogged table is afterwards silently ignored during
> > > replication.
> > >
> >
> > There is also the FOR ALL TABLES case. The manual says
> >
> >   Marks the publication as one that replicates changes for all tables in the
> >   database, including tables created in the future.
> >
> > It says nothing about relation kind. This is an oversight. FOR TABLE and FOR
> > TABLES IN SCHEMA mention about the unsupported relations. One suggestion
> > is to
> > avoid repeating the same sentence in each clause and add it to the command
> > description. Maybe using a <note>...</note>.
> >
> > Regarding the FOR ALL TABLES behavior, should it prohibit creating/attaching
> > a
> > partition for an unsupported relation? Different from the FOR TABLE clause
> > that
> > you have a specified relation, in this case you don't one. It means you 
> > could
> > have an error for regular commands (CREATE TABLE or ALTER TABLE ... SET
> > UNLOGGED) if you simply have a publication with FOR ALL TABLES. This
> > change
> > might break routines that are working today and I think that is a bad idea. 
> > A
> > reasonable solution is to ignore the unsupported objects.  It means a
> > partitioned table that has a single unlogged table as a partition will be
> > ignored. It changes the current behavior to have "all or nothing" instead of
> > "some". IMO it is easier to detect an issue if the partitioned table is 
> > empty
> > then if there is just partial data in it.
> >
> > In summary, I think we should prohibit adding a partitioned table to a
> > publication if there is any unsupported relation that is a partition of it. 
> > The
> > FOR ALL TABLES ignores the partitioned table if there is any unsupported
> > relation. Opinions?
>
> I thought about implementing a rule within publication DDLs to prevent adding
> partitioned tables with unsupported partitions to a publication. However, 
> users
> can still create problematic partitioned tables later using commands like 
> ATTACH
> PARTITION, CREATE PARTITION OF, or ALTER TABLE SET UNLOGGED. These commands 
> are
> similar to those that you identified in the FOR ALL TABLES scenario. This 
> raises
> uncertainty about how we should address these commands in the FOR single TABLE
> scenario. Should we permit these user commands but restrict only adding
> unsupported relation to publication, or should we apply restrictions across 
> all
> such commands? The former might lead to inconsistency with the FOR ALL TABLES
> setting, where unsupported relations are silently ignored.
>

Prohibiting all commands sounds too restrictive in all cases (FOR ALL
TABLES, FOR TABLE, etc.). It would be better if we can disallow
creating a publication when the user explicitly adds such a relation
in a FOR TABLE publication, otherwise raise a WARNING and don't make
it part of publication. The behavior should be the same for both
partition and inherited tables.

-- 
With Regards,
Amit Kapila.


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