On Wed, Mar 18, 2026 at 10:34 AM Haibo Yan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi John
>
> Thank yo for working on this. I had one question about the mixed use of 
> intrinsics and inline asm here.

> Since the implementation already uses NEON intrinsics such as vld1q_u64, I 
> was wondering why the pmull / pmull2 + eor helpers still need to be inline 
> asm rather than intrinsics.
>
> Is that due to compiler/toolchain support, or because the intrinsic-based 
> version produced noticeably worse code?

I answered that in the email you replied to, re-quoted here:

> To follow-up for curiosity's sake, [1] says that Apple chips can issue
> PMULL + EOR as a single uop if they are next to each other in the
> instruction stream.
> [1] https://dougallj.github.io/applecpu/firestorm.html

I don't know if that's relevant for current server hardware, so it
could be pointless. I'm personally not a fan of inline assembly, but I
also didn't yet want to put in the effort to alter generated code. I
don't think it would be very hard to do, however.

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John Naylor
Amazon Web Services


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