On Wed Jul 15, 2026 at 8:44 PM UTC, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 12:30 PM Tristan Partin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue Jul 14, 2026 at 9:24 PM UTC, Andrew Dunstan wrote:
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > While setting up a Windows/MSVC buildfarm animal with NLS enabled, the
>> > meson 'tmp_install' and 'initdb_cache' setup tests failed immediately
>> > with exit status 1 and no stdout/stderr at all.
>> >
>> > With a little help from Claude, I (eventually) found this diagnosis and
>> > solution:
>> >
>> > The root cause turned out to be in meson itself, not in our meson.build.
>> > On Windows, determine_windows_extra_paths() in
>> > mesonbuild/backend/backends.py builds a test's PATH by walking every
>> > target passed via that test's 'depends:' kwarg (extra_bdeps) and adding
>> > each one's build directory unconditionally, with no check for whether
>> > the target actually produces a DLL. That's fine when 'depends:' lists a
>> > handful of real link dependencies, but the 'tmp_install' test depends on
>> > installed_targets, which includes nls_mo_targets - one custom_target per
>> > locale/domain of compiled .mo catalogs. With NLS enabled that's several
>> > hundred targets, none of them DLLs, none of them ever looked up via
>> > PATH, and each one still gets its own entry.
>> >
>> > In our case this inflated PATH to ~39000 characters across 584 entries
>> > (448 of them po/*/LC_MESSAGES directories), comfortably past practical
>> > Windows environment-variable/command-line length limits, which is why
>> > the test failed silently - the failure happens before the child process
>> > gets a chance to produce any output.
>> >
>> > I think this is arguably a meson bug (determine_windows_extra_paths()
>> > should filter extra_bdeps the same way it already filters a test
>> > executable's own link dependencies), but regardless of whether that
>> > gets fixed upstream, we can sidestep it on our end cheaply: depend on a
>> > trivial stamp custom_target instead of installed_targets directly. Its
>> > own 'depends:' still forces installed_targets to build first, so build
>> > ordering is unaffected, but since a custom_target is not a
>> > build.BuildTarget, meson doesn't recurse into its dependencies when
>> > computing the test PATH - it contributes at most one harmless directory
>> > instead of hundreds.
>> >
>> > I initially tried wrapping installed_targets in an alias_target()
>> > instead, which would avoid the recursion the same way, but test()'s
>> > 'depends:' kwarg is typechecked to only accept
>> > BuildTarget | CustomTarget | CustomTargetIndex and rejects AliasTarget
>> > outright:
>> >
>> >   meson.build:NNNN:0: ERROR: test keyword argument 'depends' was of
>> >   type array[AliasTarget] but should have been type
>> >   array[BuildTarget | CustomTarget | CustomTargetIndex]
>> >
>> > The attached patch uses a custom_target instead, which satisfies that
>> > type check.
>> >
>> > Tested on Windows/MSVC (meson 1.11.1), building with -Dnls=enabled:
>> >
>> >   before: tmp_install test PATH = 39193 chars, 584 entries, 448
>> >           LC_MESSAGES - tmp_install and initdb_cache setup tests FAIL
>> >           (exit status 1, no output)
>> >   after:  tmp_install test PATH = 2189 chars, 43 entries, 0
>> >           LC_MESSAGES - all three setup tests (tmp_install,
>> >           install_test_files, initdb_cache) OK
>> >
>> > I did not attempt to fix the same class of problem for any other test
>> > in the tree - this patch only touches the one setup test that was
>> > actually failing for us. If there's interest, the same technique could
>> > presumably be applied wherever else a test's 'depends:' pulls in a
>> > large target list.
>>
>> Hey Andrew,
>>
>> I took some time to raise this issue with the Meson team in their
>> Matrix/IRC channel. I'll see if the discussion goes anywhere.
>>
>> As for the fix and the results, they look good to me. I couldn't
>> identify any other problems where this could be an issue, so this seems
>> like a one-off. Did you notice any other problems? I only noticed
>> installed_targets depended on in tmp_install and install-quiet.
>>
>
>
> I should have mentioned that I raised an issue at  <
> https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/issues/16010>

Thanks! Currently discussing potential solutions.

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Tristan Partin
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