On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:56:55 -0400 Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Julien Rouhaud <rjuju...@gmail.com> writes: > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 6:25 PM Euler Taveira <eu...@timbira.com.br> > > wrote: > >> createdb, dropdb, createuser, dropuser, reindexdb are binaries that > >> confuse most newbies. Which tool is theses binaries from? The names > >> does not give a hint. How often those confusing name tools are used? > > > initdb is probably an order of magnitude worse name than all of these. > > Meh. The ones with "db" in the name don't strike me as mortal sins; > even if you don't recognize them as referring to a "database", you're > not likely to guess wrongly that you know what they do. The two that > seem the worst to me are createuser and dropuser, which not only have > no visible connection to "postgres" or "database" but could easily > be mistaken for utilities for managing operating-system accounts. > > We managed to get rid of createlang and droplang in v10, and there > hasn't been that much push-back about it. So maybe there could be > a move to remove createuser/dropuser? Or at least rename them to > pg_createuser and pg_dropuser. If you rename them, rename as pg_createrole and pg_droprole :) I teach people not to use "CREATE USER/GROUP", but each time I have to tell them "Yes, we kept createuser since 8.1 where roles has been introduced for backward compatibility. No, there's no createrole". ++