чт, 28 мар. 2019 г. в 01:01, Alvaro Herrera <alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com>:

> On 2019-Mar-28, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:
>
>
> > чт, 28 мар. 2019 г. в 00:32, Alvaro Herrera <alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com>:
> >
> > > On 2019-Mar-27, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:
>
> > > * certain tables would have some sort of partial scan that sets the
> > >   visibility map.  There's no reason to invoke the whole vacuuming
> > >   machinery.  I don't think this is limited to append-only tables, but
> > >   rather those are just the ones that are affected the most.
> >
> > What other machinery runs on VACUUM invocation that is not wanted there?
> > Since Postgres 11 index cleanup is already skipped on append-only tables.
>
> Well, I think it would be useful to set all-visible earlier than waiting
> for a vacuum to be necessary, even for tables that are not append-only.
> So if you think about this just for the append-only table, you leave
> money on the table.
>

Thing is, problem does not exist for non-append-only tables, they're going
to be vacuumed after 50 rows got updated, automatically.


>
> > > * tables nearing wraparound danger should use the (yet to be committed)
> > >   option to skip index cleaning, which makes the cleanup action faster.
> > >   Again, no need for complete vacuuming.
> >
> > "Nearing wraparound" is too late already. In Amazon, reading table from
> gp2
> > after you exhausted your IOPS burst budget is like reading a floppy
> drive,
> > you have to freeze a lot earlier than you hit several terabytes of
> unfrozen
> > data, or you're dead like Mandrill's Search and Url tables from the link
> I
> > shared.
>
> OK, then start freezing tuples in the cheap mode (skip index updates)
> earlier than that.  I suppose a good question is when to start.
>

Attached (autovacuum_berserk_v1.patch)
 code achieves that. For append-only tables since
https://commitfest.postgresql.org/16/952/ vacuum skips index cleanup if no
updates happened. You just need to trigger it, and it already will be
"cheap".

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