On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 1:30 PM Alex <zhihui.fan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 3:28 PM Kuntal Ghosh <kuntalghosh.2...@gmail.com> 
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>> On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:15 PM Alex <zhihui.fan1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  HEAPTUPLE_RECENTLY_DEAD, /* tuple is dead, but not deletable yet */
>>>
>>>  It is a tuple which has been deleted AND committed but before the delete 
>>> there is a transaction started but not committed. Let call this transaction 
>>> as Transaction A.
>>>
>>> if we create index on this time, Let's call this index as Index A, it still 
>>> index this record.  my question is why need this.
>>>
>> In this case, the changes of the tuple is not visible yet. Now suppose, your 
>> transaction A is serializable and you've another serializable transaction B 
>> which can see the index A. It generates a plan that requires to fetch the 
>> deleted tuple through an index scan. If the tuple is not present in the 
>> index, how are you going to create a conflict edge between transaction A and 
>> transaction B?
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>> Basically, you need to identify the following clause to detect serializable 
>> conflicts:
>> Transaction A precedes transaction B. (Because, transaction A has deleted a 
>> tuple and it's not visible to transaction B)
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> thanks Ghosh.  Looks your answer is similar with my previous point 
> (transaction is  serializable).   actually if the transaction B can't see the 
> “deleted" which has been committed,  should it see the index A which is 
> created after the "delete" transaction?
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I think what I'm trying to say is different.

For my case, the sequence is as following:
1. Transaction A has deleted a tuple, say t1 and got committed.
2. Index A has been created successfully.
3. Now, transaction B starts and use the index A to fetch the tuple
t1. While doing visibility check, transaction B gets to know that t1
has been deleted by a committed transaction A, so it can't see the
tuple. But, it creates a dependency edge that transaction A precedes
transaction B. This edge is required to detect a serializable conflict
failure.

If you don't create the index entry, it'll not be able to create that edge.


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Thanks & Regards,
Kuntal Ghosh
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