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On 2020/12/15 0:20, Fujii Masao wrote:


On 2020/12/14 21:31, Fujii Masao wrote:


On 2020/12/05 12:38, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 7:22 PM Drouvot, Bertrand <bdrou...@amazon.com> wrote:

Hi,

On 12/4/20 2:21 AM, Fujii Masao wrote:

On 2020/12/04 9:28, Masahiko Sawada wrote:
On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 2:54 AM Fujii Masao
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 3:25 AM Alvaro Herrera
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On 2020-Dec-01, Fujii Masao wrote:

+ if (proc)
+                     {
+                             if (nprocs == 0)
+ appendStringInfo(&buf, "%d", proc->pid);
+                             else
+ appendStringInfo(&buf, ", %d", proc->pid);
+
+                             nprocs++;

What happens if all the backends in wait_list have gone? In
other words,
how should we handle the case where nprocs == 0 (i.e., nprocs
has not been
incrmented at all)? This would very rarely happen, but can happen.
In this case, since buf.data is empty, at least there seems no
need to log
the list of conflicting processes in detail message.
Yes, I noticed this too; this can be simplified by changing the
condition in the ereport() call to be "nprocs > 0" (rather than
wait_list being null), otherwise not print the errdetail.  (You
could
test buf.data or buf.len instead, but that seems uglier to me.)
+1

Maybe we can also improve the comment of this function from:

+ * This function also reports the details about the conflicting
+ * process ids if *wait_list is not NULL.

to " This function also reports the details about the conflicting
process ids if exist" or something.

Thank you all for the review/remarks.

They have been addressed in the new attached patch version.

Thanks for updating the patch! I read through the patch again
and applied the following chages to it. Attached is the updated
version of the patch. Could you review this version? If there is
no issue in it, I'm thinking to commit this version.

Thank you for updating the patch! I have one question.


+                       timeouts[cnt].id = STANDBY_TIMEOUT;
+                       timeouts[cnt].type = TMPARAM_AFTER;
+                       timeouts[cnt].delay_ms = DeadlockTimeout;

Maybe STANDBY_TIMEOUT should be STANDBY_DEADLOCK_TIMEOUT here?
I changed the code that way.

As the comment of ResolveRecoveryConflictWithLock() says the
following, a deadlock is detected by the ordinary backend process:

   * Deadlocks involving the Startup process and an ordinary backend
proces
   * will be detected by the deadlock detector within the ordinary
backend.

If we use STANDBY_DEADLOCK_TIMEOUT,
SendRecoveryConflictWithBufferPin() will be called after
DeadlockTimeout passed, but I think it's not necessary for the startup
process in this case.

Thanks for pointing this! You are right.


If we want to just wake up the startup process
maybe we can use STANDBY_TIMEOUT here?

Thanks for the patch updates! Except what we are still discussing below,
it looks good to me.

When STANDBY_TIMEOUT happens, a request to release conflicting buffer
pins is sent. Right? If so, we should not also use STANDBY_TIMEOUT there?

Agree


Or, first of all, we don't need to enable the deadlock timer at all?
Since what we'd like to do is to wake up after deadlock_timeout
passes, we can do that by changing ProcWaitForSignal() so that it can
accept the timeout and giving the deadlock_timeout to it. If we do
this, maybe we can get rid of STANDBY_LOCK_TIMEOUT from
ResolveRecoveryConflictWithLock(). Thought?

Where do we enable deadlock timeout in hot standby case? You meant to
enable it in ProcWaitForSignal() or where we set a timer for not hot
standby case, in ProcSleep()?

No, what I tried to say is to change ResolveRecoveryConflictWithLock() so that 
it does

1. calculate the "minimum" timeout from deadlock_timeout and 
max_standby_xxx_delay
2. give the calculated timeout value to ProcWaitForSignal()
3. wait for signal and timeout on ProcWaitForSignal()

Since ProcWaitForSignal() calls WaitLatch(), seems it's not so difficult to 
make ProcWaitForSignal() handle the timeout. If we do this, I was thinking that 
we can get rid of enable_timeouts() from ResolveRecoveryConflictWithLock().




Why not simply use (again) the STANDBY_LOCK_TIMEOUT one? (as it triggers
a call to StandbyLockTimeoutHandler() which does nothing, except waking
up. That's what we want, right?)

Right, what I wanted to mean is STANDBY_LOCK_TIMEOUT. The startup
process can wake up and do nothing. Thank you for pointing out.

Okay, understood! Firstly I was thinking that enabling the same type (i.e., 
STANDBY_LOCK_TIMEOUT) of lock twice doesn't work properly, but as far as I read 
the code, it works. In that case, only the shorter timeout would be activated 
in enable_timeouts(). So I agree to use STANDBY_LOCK_TIMEOUT.

So I renamed the argument "deadlock_timer" in ResolveRecoveryConflictWithLock()
because it's not the timer for deadlock and is confusing. Attached is the
updated version of the patch. Barring any objection, I will commit this version.

Since the recent commit 8900b5a9d5 changed the recovery conflict code,
I updated the patch. Attached is the updated version of the patch.

Thanks for those updates!

I had a look and the patch does look good to me.

Thanks for the review! I pushed the latest patch.



As far the other threads regarding:

- "maybe_log_conflict" and "maybe_update_title" naming: I don’t have strong 
opinions about it but I am more inclined to stay with the “maybe” naming (as it is currently in 
this patch version) as it better reflects that this may or not occur.
- the errdetail log message format in LogRecoveryConflict() (currently looks 
like “Conflicting process: 25118.”) : I don’t have strong opinions about it but 
I am more inclined to stay as it is, as it looks similar as the format being 
used in ProcSleep() (even if we can find different formats in other places 
though).

Agreed. And if we come up with better idea about those topics,
we can improve the code later.

Regards,

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Fujii Masao
Advanced Computing Technology Center
Research and Development Headquarters
NTT DATA CORPORATION


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