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"D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > Besides, proof that it would do no extra harm is hardly a strong > argumet for including it. Given how easy it is to add it to any DB > that needs it, I fail to see why we should add it by default. Because we're not talking about people who have access to a psql command line. > Personally I would like to see more things removed from PG and have > them added as modules when required. Yes, that will do wonders for our mindshare and adoption rate. (Dave Page) >> I know I'm gonna regret wading in on this, but in my mind this is akin >> to one of the arguments for including tsearch in the core server - >> namely that too many brain dead hosting providers won't add a contrib >> module or anything else in a customer's database because they don't (D'Arcy) > So their clients will go somewhere <PLUG URL="http://www.Vex.Net/" /> > that does understand what they are installing and can support their > users properly. How far are we supposed to go to support the clueless? Clueless is rather a harsh word to throw out. There's a spectrum of Postgres users - from backend hackers that install Postgres via cvs HEAD, to people who do a "yum install", to people who are using an app which uses Postgres in the backend, and who are barely aware that Postgres is being used. Supporting them all is a balancing act, but things like putting tsearch2 in core is absolutely a step in the right direction. > And the first time someone uses pl/pgsql to do harm, even if it is due > to their mis-configuration, who gets blamed? The person who did the harm perhaps? This just seems unnecessary FUD. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200802221147 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEAREDAAYFAke+/QUACgkQvJuQZxSWSsgWlgCdElnDyCKvoD57Oz7UyqIw1hJe wsYAn3u54vmDAt4qRNlI08A7w3dj2b7q =IJzq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq