On Oct 28, 2011 5:22 AM, "Tom Lane" <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>
> Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> writes:
> > Stephen Frost wrote:
> >> Yes, they would have removed it because they didn't want it.  As I
> >> recall, part of the agreement to create an extra database by default
was
> >> that it could be removed if users didn't want it.  Turning around and
> >> then saying "but things won't work if it's not there" isn't exactly
> >> supporting users who decide to remove it.
>
> > Well, you would have to remove it _after_ you did the pg_upgrade.
>
> As far as the *target* cluster is concerned, I have no sympathy for
> someone who messes with its contents before running pg_upgrade.
> That's an RTFM matter: you're supposed to upgrade into a virgin
> just-initdb'd cluster.
>
> However, it would be nice if pg_upgrade supported transferring from a
> *source* cluster that didn't have the postgres DB.
>
> What about creating a new, single-purpose database in the source
> cluster and then removing it again after we're done?

How about naming this newly created database "postgres"? That would make the
code simple enough - always use the postgres database, just drop it at the
end if it didn't exist in the source cluster.

/Magnus

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