On 5/28/15 9:14 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
Naoya Anzai <nao-an...@xc.jp.nec.com> writes:
In my much experience up until now,I have an idea that we can add
2 new vacuum statistics into pg_stat_xxx_tables.

Adding new stats in that way requires adding per-table counters, which
bloat the statistics files (especially in database with very many tables).
I do not think you've made a case for these stats being valuable enough
to justify such overhead for everybody.

It occurs to me that there's no good reason for vacuum-derived stats to be in the stats file; it's not like users run vacuum anywhere near as often as other commands. It's stats could be kept in pg_class; we're already keeping things like relallvisible there.

As far as the first one goes, I don't even think it's especially useful.
There might be value in tracking the times of the last few vacuums on a
table, but knowing the time for only the latest one doesn't sound like it
would prove much.  So I'd be inclined to think more along the lines of
scanning the postmaster log for autovacuum runtimes, instead of squeezing
it into the pg_stats views.

You'd also want to know how many pages were scanned, since any decent estimation would need to take table size into account.

As for history, that's a problem that exists for *all* our statistics, so anyone that cares about that is going to setup some system to periodically capture the contents of pg_stat_*.

A possible alternative so far as the second one goes is to add a function
(perhaps in contrib/pg_freespacemap) that simply runs through a table's
VM and counts the number of set bits.  This would be more accurate (no
risk of lost counter updates) and very possibly cheaper overall: it would
take longer to find out the number when you wanted it, but you wouldn't be
paying the distributed overhead of tracking it when you didn't want it.

Seems like a reasonable addition to that contrib module regardless. As Jeff Janes mentioned this info is available in pg_class, but it requires an ANALYZE to update it.
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Jim Nasby, Data Architect, Blue Treble Consulting, Austin TX
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