On 09/30/2015 02:16 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
On 09/30/2015 10:45 AM, Andrew Dunstan wrote:

Frankly, an insistence on moving to some integrated solution is likely
to result in the adoption of nothing. And your "educating hackers who
don't understand" is more than a little patronizing. What makes you
think your experience in software development is better than others'?

I wasn't being patronizing. I was stating a point. Is this discussion not educational (whether you agree with the points or not) or are you suggesting that somehow you already know everything?

That, was patronizing.

Nonsense. There is a big difference between "stating a view" and "educating people who don't understand." The latter implies that your experience is to be preferred to theirs.

I believe myself (and someone like Nasby) do have a better core understanding of development because development is more than some guy sitting in a den pushing out code. The community already recognizes this, that is why we have the facilities we do now. All I (and others) am suggesting is that we make the facilities we have now, work better.

Who exactly is "some guy sitting in a den pushing out code"? And if that's not a patronizing put down I don't know what is. If you're referring to me you couldn't be more wrong. I have been a development director managing a couple of substantial teams, as well as having worked in numerous commercial environments.



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