I just tried a little bit your patch for applying SELECT policies to
DELETE/UPDATE. It is consistent with the GRANT system so it looks
really good. I'll test it more thoroughly later.

Also, I guess we don't need to worry about the syntax of "restrictive
policies" you mentioned in the upthread since SELECT policies are
essentially restrictive now. Since that work has already been done,
I'm wondering if I can take the task of allowing policies to reference
both the 'old' and 'new' versions of the row. I understand that this
feature won't be considered for 9.5 but I'd like to implement it and
hopefully get it incorporated into 9.6.


On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Stephen Frost <> wrote:
> * Zhaomo Yang ( wrote:
>> > Just a side-note, but your mail client doesn't seem to get the quoting
>> > quite right sometimes, which can be confusing.  Not sure if there's
>> > anything you can do about it but wanted to let you know in case there
>> > is.
>> Sorry about this. From now on I'll use the plain text mode for msgs I
>> send to the mailing list.
>> Please let me know if this happens also in this email.
> Looks like this one has all of the quoting correct- thanks!
>> > Regarding this, specifically, we'd need to first decide on what the
>> > syntax/grammar should be.
>> I'll think about it. Also, thanks for the pointers.
> Sure, no problem.
>> > Right, and we adressed the concerns with RETURNING.  Regarding the
>> > non-RETURNING case, The same concerns about blind updates and deletes
>> > already exist with the GRANT permission system; it's not anything new.
>> I think they are different. In the current GRANT permission system,
>> one can do blind updates but he
>> cannot refer to any existing values in either the expressions or the
>> condition if he doesn't have
>> SELECT privilege on the table (or the columns), thus the tricks like
>> divide-by-zero cannot be used and a malicious
>> user cannot get information out of blind updates.
> Ok, I see what you're getting at with that and I believe it'll be a
> pretty straight-forward change, thanks to Dean's recent rework.  I'll
> take a look at making that happens.
> Thanks!
> Stephen

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