At Wed, 10 Feb 2016 02:57:54 +0900, Fujii Masao <masao.fu...@gmail.com> wrote 
in <cahgqgwhr1mnpagrmh9t0oy0onydkgaymcngvoe-1vlz8z9t...@mail.gmail.com>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:36 AM, Masahiko Sawada <sawada.m...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Michael Paquier
> > <michael.paqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:33 AM, Robert Haas wrote:
> >>> Also, to be frank, I think we ought to be putting more effort into
> >>> another patch in this same area, specifically Thomas Munro's causal
> >>> reads patch.  I think a lot of people today are trying to use
> >>> synchronous replication to build load-balancing clusters and avoid the
> >>> problem where you write some data and then read back stale data from a
> >>> standby server.  Of course, our current synchronous replication
> >>> facilities make no such guarantees - his patch does, and I think
> >>> that's pretty important.  I'm not saying that we shouldn't do this
> >>> too, of course.
> >>
> >> Yeah, sure. Each one of those patches is trying to solve a different
> >> problem where Postgres is deficient, here we'd like to be sure a
> >> commit WAL record is correctly flushed on multiple standbys, while the
> >> patch of Thomas is trying to ensure that there is no need to scan for
> >> the replay position of a standby using some GUC parameters and a
> >> validation/sanity layer in syncrep.c to do that. Surely the patch of
> >> this thread has got more attention than Thomas', and both of them have
> >> merits and try to address real problems. FWIW, the patch of Thomas is
> >> a topic that I find rather interesting, and I am planning to look at
> >> it as well, perhaps for next CF or even before that. We'll see how
> >> other things move on.
> >
> > Attached first version dedicated language patch (document patch is not yet.)
> Thanks for the patch! Will review it.
> I think that it's time to write the documentation patch.
> Though I've not read the patch yet, I found that your patch
> changed s_s_names so that it rejects non-alphabet character
> like *, according to my simple test. It should accept any
> application_name which we can use.

Thanks for the quick response. At a glance, I'd like to show you
some random suggestions, mainly on writing conventions.

Running postgresql with s_s_names = '*', makes error as Fujii-san
said. And it yeilds the following message.

| $ postgres 
| FATAL:  syntax error: unexpected character "*"

Mmm.. It should be tough to find what has happened..


check_synchronous_standby_names frees parsed SyncRepStandbyNames
immediately but no reason is explained there. The following
comment looks to be saying something related to this but it
doesn't explain the reason to free.

+ /*
+  * Any additional validation of standby names should go here.
+  *
+  * Don't attempt to set WALSender priority because this is executed by
+  * postmaster at startup, not WALSender, so the application_name is not
+  * yet correctly set.
+  */

Addtion to that, I'd like to see a description like
'syncgroup_yyparse sets the global SyncRepStandbyNames as side
effect' around it.

malloc/free are used in create_name_node and other functions to
be used in scanner, but syncgroup_gram.y is said to use
palloc/pfree. Maybe they should use the same memory
allocation/freeing functions.

The variable name SyncRepStandbyNames holds the list of
SyncGroupNode*. This is somewhat confusing. How about

+static void
+SyncRepClearStandbyGroupList(SyncGroupNode *group)
+       SyncGroupNode *n = group->member;

The name 'n' is a bit confusing, I believe that the one-letter
variables should be used following implicit (and ancient?)
convention otherwise pretty short-term and obvious cases.  name,
or group_name instead might be better. There's similar usage of
'n' in other places.

+ * Find active walsender position of WalSnd by name. Returns index of walsnds
+ * array if found, otherwise return -1.

I didn't get what is 'walsender position' within this
comment. And as the discussion upthread, there can be multiple
walsenders with the same name. So this might be like this.

> * Finds the first active synchronous walsender with given name
> * in WalSndCtl->wansnds and returns the index of that. Returns
> * -1 if not found.

+ * Get both synced LSNS: write and flush, using its group function and check
+ * whether each LSN has advanced to, or not.

This is question for all. Which to use synced, synched or
synchronized? Maybe we should use non-abbreviated spellings
unless the description become too long to make it hard to read.

> * Return true if we have enough synchronized standbys and the 'safe'
> * written and flushed LSNs, which are LSNs assured in all standbys
> * considered should be synchronized.

# Please rewrite me.

+SyncRepSyncedLsnAdvancedTo(XLogRecPtr *write_pos, XLogRecPtr *flush_pos)
+       XLogRecPtr      cur_write_pos;
+       XLogRecPtr      cur_flush_pos;
+       bool            ret;

The name cur_*_pos are a bit confusing. They hold LSNs where all
of standbys choosed as synchronized ones. So how about
safe_*_pos? And 'ret' is not the return value of this function
and it can have more specific name, such like... satisfied? or

+SyncRepSyncedLsnAdvancedTo(XLogRecPtr *write_pos, XLogRecPtr *flush_pos)
+       /* Check whether each LSN has advanced to */
+       if (ret)
+       {
+               return true;
+       }
+       return false;

This might be a kind of favor, It would be simple to be written with

+ SyncRepSyncedLsnAdvancedTo(XLogRecPtr *write_pos, XLogRecPtr *flush_pos)
+  ret = SyncRepStandbyNames->SyncRepGetSyncedLsnsFn(SyncRepStandbyNames,
+                            &cur_write_pos,
+                            &cur_flush_pos);
+    if (MyWalSnd->write >= cur_write_pos)

I suppose SyncRepGetSyncedLsnsFn, or SyncRepGetSyncedLsnsPriority
can return InvalidXLogRecPtr as cur_*_pos even when it returns
true. And, I suppose comparison of LSN values with
InvalidXLogRecPtr is not well-defined. Anyway the condition goes
wrong when cur_write_pos = InvalidXLogRecPtr (but ret = true).

+ * Obtain a array containing positions of standbys of specified group
+ * currently considered as synchronous up to wait_num of its group.
+ * Caller is respnsible for allocating the data obtained.

# Anyone please reedit my rewriting below.. Perhaps my writing is
# quite unreadable..

> * Return the positions of the first group->wait_num
> * synchronized standbys in group->member list into
> * sync_list. sync_list is assumed to have enough space for
> * at least group->wait_num elements.

+SyncRepGetSyncedLsnsPriority(SyncGroupNode *group, XLogRecPtr *write_pos, 
XLogRecPtr *flush_pos)
+       for(n = group->member; n != NULL; n = n->next)

group->member holds two or more items, so the name would be
better to be group->members, or member_list.

+  /* We already got enough synchronous standbys, return */
+  if (num == group->wait_num)

As convention for saftiness, this kind of comparison is to use
inequality operators.

>  if (num >= group->wait_num)

At a glance, SyncRepGetSyncedLsnsPriority and
SyncRepGetSyncStandbysPriority does almost the same thing and both
runs loops over group members. Couldn't they run at once?


Kyotaro Horiguchi
NTT Open Source Software Center

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