On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Joshua D. Drake <j...@commandprompt.com> wrote:
> On 04/29/2016 08:44 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:07:04PM +0300, Oleg Bartunov wrote: >> >>> Our roadmap http://www.postgresql.org/developer/roadmap/ is the >>> problem. We >>> don't have clear roadmap and that's why we cannot plan future feature >>> full >>> release. There are several postgres-centric companies, which have most of >>> developers, who do all major contributions. All these companies has their >>> roadmaps, but not the community. >>> >> >> I would be concerned if company roadmaps overtly affected the community >> roadmap. In general, I find company roadmaps to be very short-sighted >> and quickly changed based on the demands of specific users/customers --- >> something we don't want to imitate. >> >> We do want company roadmaps to affect the community roadmap, but in a >> healthy, long-term way, and I think, in general, that is happening. >> >> > The roadmap is not the problem it is the lack of cooperation. Many > companies are now developing features in a silo and then presenting them to > the community. Instead we should be working with those companies to have > them develop transparently so others can be a part of the process. > We are working on our roadmap to have it in form to be presented to the community. I think we'll publish it somewhere in wiki. > > If the feature is going to be submitted to core anyway (or open source) > why wouldn't we just do that? Why wouldn't EDB develop directly within the > Pg infrastructure. Why wouldn't we build teams around the best and > brightest between EDB, 2Q and Citus? > This is what I suggested. Features considered to be open source could be discussed and developed together. > > Egos. > > Consider PgLogical, who is working on this outside of 2Q? Where is the git > repo for it? Where is the bug tracker? Where is the mailing list? Oh, its > -hackers, except that it isn't, is it? > > It used to be that everyone got together and worked together before the > patch review process. Now it seems like it is a competition between > companies to see whose ego can get the most inflated via press releases > because they developed X for Y. > > git log says better than any press releases :) > If the companies were to come together and truly recognize that profit is > the reward not the goal then our community would be much stronger for it. I'd not limited by the companies, individual developes are highly welcome. I'm afraid there are some. > > > Sincerely, > > JD > > > -- > Command Prompt, Inc. http://the.postgres.company/ > +1-503-667-4564 > PostgreSQL Centered full stack support, consulting and development. > Everyone appreciates your honesty, until you are honest with them. >
