On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 3:03 AM, Fujii Masao <masao.fu...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Michael Paquier > <michael.paqu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Fujii Masao <masao.fu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 5:25 AM, Peter Eisentraut >>> <peter.eisentr...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote: >>>> On 4/12/17 09:55, Fujii Masao wrote: >>>>> To fix this issue, we should terminate walsender for logical replication >>>>> before shutdown checkpoint starts. Of course walsender for physical >>>>> replication still needs to keep running until shutdown checkpoint ends, >>>>> though. >>>> >>>> Can we turn it into a kind of read-only or no-new-commands mode instead, >>>> so it can keep streaming but not accept any new actions? >>> >>> So we make walsenders switch to that mode and wait for all the >>> already-ongoing >>> their "write" commands to finish, and then we start a shutdown checkpoint? >>> This is an idea, but seems a bit complicated. ISTM that it's simpler to >>> terminate only walsenders for logical rep before shutdown checkpoint. >> >> Perhaps my memory is failing me here... But in clean shutdowns we do >> shut down WAL senders after the checkpoint has completed so as we are >> sure that they have flushed the LSN corresponding to the checkpoint >> ending, right? > > Yes. > >> Why introducing an inconsistency for logical workers? >> It seems to me that logical workers should fail under the same rules. > > Could you tell me why? You think that even walsender for logical rep > needs to stream the shutdown checkpoint WAL record to the subscriber? > I was not thinking that's true.
For physical replication, the property to wait that standbys have flushed the LSN of the shutdown checkpoint can be important for switchovers. For example, with a primary and a standby, it is possible to stop cleanly the master, promote the standby, and then connect back to the cluster the old primary as a standby to the now-new primary with the guarantee that both are in a consistent state. It seems to me that having similar guarantees for logical replication is important. Now, I have not reviewed the code of logirep in details at the level of Peter, Petr or yourself... -- Michael -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (firstname.lastname@example.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers