The way I understand Nested Tables and Object Relational Databases, they basically are a layer on top of any old RDBMS that adds ease for the user. I personally believe in normalization theory I just don't like implementing it to avoid JOIN syntax.

How difficult would it be to implement (for those more familiar with the code) to write such a "layer." It could always be a patch until I can persuade more people that it's a good idea.

Darren

On Jul 7, 2005, at 7:09 PM, David Fetter wrote:

On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 12:53:14PM -0700, Josh Berkus wrote:

Darren,


I was mainly interested because of the simplicity it seems to add for implementing an application using the database. While those accustomed
to writing SQL queries using joins and keys might prefer it for many
understandable reasons, there is something to be said for
multidimensional data structures. It would be like if you _had_ to have
multiple arrays to store information in C instead of using a
multidimensional array. I'm open to debate on the subject as I'd love to
be convinced that Oracle is wrong.


Ooops. Our discussion somehow got shifted off list. Suffice it to say
that not everyone agrees with me.


Where "not everyone" includes one C. J. Date ;)


I think the XML features are important and I'd be more suited
writing something more straight forward versus re-inventing the
wheel. I brought it up for debate, because I thought it was
something that should be thought about.


Yes, I just don't see how nested tables relate to XML.


To me, they don't relate directly, as tables (nested or otherwise)
have no intrinsic row ordering, where XML does.  Nested tables is a
Good Thing(TM) though :)

Cheers,
D
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