On Jan 19, 2006, at 10:34 , Dann Corbit wrote:
http://www.db.ucsd.edu/cse132B/Thirdmanifesto.pdf
"PROPOSITION 1.4: Unique Identifiers (UIDs) for records should be assigned by the DBMS only if a user-defined primary key is not available.
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An immutable primary key has an extra advantage over a system- assigned unique identifier because it has a natural, human readable meaning. Consequently, in data interchange or debugging this may be an advantage. If no primary key is available for a collection, then it is imperative that a system-assigned UID be provided.
<snip /> Dann Corbit:
The primary key should be immutable, meaning that its value should not be changed during the course of normal operations of the database. What natural key is immutable? The answer is that such an attribute does not exist. To use them for such a purpose is begging for trouble.
As far as I can tell, the only difference between your position, Dann, and Date and Darwen's, is that you think no natural key is immutable. If you *could* find an immutable natural key, would it be an acceptable key for you? Date and Darwen say explicitly that if no immutable (natural) (primary) key is available a system-assigned UID is required. If you think there is no immutable natural key available, Darwen and Date would agree that you should use a system- generated key. Or do you think I'm misreading you or The Third Manifesto?
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