On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 11:11 +0200, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Gevik, > >uniqueness is never a guaranteed. that is according to the RFC docs. > > >uniqueness is never a guaranteed in the sense that there is a tiny > >chance someone of the other side of the planet might generate the > same > >guid. > > As much as I learned, it is recommended to give information about > "grade of uniqueness". I think it would be a valuable information, > which information your UUID-generator takes into account, and what the > "grade of uniqueness" is. > > (I know of the Windows UUID, which takes the MAC-Address of the > included Ethernet-Card into it's calculation, which may be guaranteed > to be unique) >
> > Some more questions about UUIDs and your patch: > > a) compatibility of UUIDs -> I have generated a lot of UUIDs via the > WIN32 provided function (for the unix-only-people: Windows uses UUIDs > all around its registry, software IDs and on and on). How unique are > those UUIDs when mixed with "your" UUIDs ? The new_guid() generates a random guid in the range of 256^256 which is 3.231700607131100730071487668867e+616 (easy to imagine) using PG's randomizer. I wonder how often someone could actually generate a duplicate guid in this range. This also goes for the MS version of the guid. It uses the MAC address and a timespamp but what happens if by chance your PC's clock is set in the past! > > b) I read some time ago about the problems with UUIDs as primary keys > in contrast to serials: serials get produced in ascending order; and > often data which was produced in one timespan is also connected > semantically. "near serial values" are also local within a > btree-index; but UUIDs generated in "near times" are usually spread > around the possible bitranges. > (example for sequence of serials: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 > example for sequence of UUIDs : 1 - 999919281921843191 - 782 - > 18291831912318971231) > that is supposed to affect the locality of the index, and from that > also the performance of the system. > > I do not know how valid this information is; so I am asking you for > your feedback; especially since you put a lot of thoughts into this > UUID patch. Maybe you took allready care of this situation when > constructing the index operators? I am running many test regarding indexing of the uuid datatype with large amount of records. But the performance test is still limited to hardware capacity Thank you. > > Thanks > > Harald > > > > > > > -- > GHUM Harald Massa > persuadere et programmare > Harald Armin Massa > Reinsburgstraße 202b > 70197 Stuttgart > 0173/9409607 > - > Let's set so double the killer delete select all. ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq