On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:

Tom Lane wrote:
Bruce Momjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tom Lane wrote:
Since I don't think that a datatype solution is the way to go,
I don't feel that we are as far away from an agreement as Bruce
is worried about.

Well, from where I sit, there is one person saying give me the foot gun,
and Heikki saying he wants a bullet-proof type system, and you and I are
in the middle, so the big problem is I don't see a concensus forming,
and we have been discussing this for a while.

The people who actually use tsearch2 seem to all have the same opinion ...
so I think we can't go too far in the bullet-proofing direction.

But I would like a design that is bulletproof in dump/reload scenarios,
and I think it's fair to question that aspect of the tsearch2 design
because we've seen many reports of people having trouble updating
databases that use tsearch2.

dump/reload is *the* biggest problem I've had with tsearch2 so far. But
it hasn't been with the actual data - it's been the functions, and only
when migrating between versions. But solving dump/reload reliably is one
of the main things I'm hoping for in 8.3 ;-)

The dump/reload problem should be gone once tsearch2 became a part of core.
the problem is an inability to say what is a correct configuration in case of expressional index when restoring. In any other case there are many
use cases when tsvector could be intentionally obtained using different

As for a nother use-pointer, I use different configurations in the same
database - but only one per table. I explicitly use the to_tsvector that
specifies a configuration always - to avoid surprising myself.

I don't use the functional index part, but for new users I can see how
that's certainly a *lot* easier. Requiring the specification of the
configuration explicitly when creating this index I don't see as a big
problem at all - compared to the work needed to set up triggers. But
it's nice not to have to do it when querying. But wouldn't that be
solved by having to_tsvector() require the configuration, but
to_tsquery() and plainto_tsquery() not require it?

or better to introduce novice-level interface with configuration name
required and insist on using it with expressional index (don't know
if there is a machinery to do so).

Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru),
Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/
phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83

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